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Re: Liz Cheney - soon-to-be-former Republican House conference chair

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orlylicious wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 7:09 pm
What's pissing us off is that this GOP is so nuts, so nasty, so delusional, that we have a drop of sympathy for Liz. F*ck. The. GOP.
I don't :fingerwag:

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Jim Wright:
When Liz Cheney stands up and denounces the policies of the Bush Administration and the deliberate lies her father told -- AND IS *STILL* TELLING -- lies that sent people like me to war, lies that killed half a million Iraqis, THEN you can call her a hero.
When Liz Cheney ACTUALLY stands up and denounces not just Trump, but the Republican agenda of hate, fear, hysteria, and goddamned deliberate lies that led directly from Reagan to Trump, THEN you can call her a hero.
Until then, she's just another Republican.




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And regardless, always, and we shouldn't forget, f*ck Ali Abdul-Razaq Akbar.
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Except Paul -- Akbar would enjoy it too much.

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AndyinPA wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 7:50 pm Jim Wright:
When Liz Cheney stands up and denounces the policies of the Bush Administration and the deliberate lies her father told -- AND IS *STILL* TELLING -- lies that sent people like me to war, lies that killed half a million Iraqis, THEN you can call her a hero.
When Liz Cheney ACTUALLY stands up and denounces not just Trump, but the Republican agenda of hate, fear, hysteria, and goddamned deliberate lies that led directly from Reagan to Trump, THEN you can call her a hero.
Until then, she's just another Republican.
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I should mention that Liz once threw her gay sibling under the bus. How weird that she is lauded for her support of the Consitution. I kinda thought that was the idea of being a decent citizen.
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in this morning's Globe
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I'll be interested to see how/if Daddy Dick deals with Little Liz's political whooping.
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some select paragraphs from the globe story
“There are serious issues related to election irregularities in the state of Georgia, as well as Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin,” Stefanik told reporters on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, displaying her commitment to baseless doubts about a fair election ahead of the expected vote to make her the third-ranking House Republican on Friday.

It mattered little to the Republicans saying “yes” to remove Cheney that she has a more conservative record than Stefanik, nor that the claims of election fraud their party has embraced brought a violent insurrection to their workplace four months ago. What mattered was that Cheney opposes Trump.

“Liz Cheney was canceled today for speaking her mind and disagreeing with the narrative that President Trump has put forth,” said Representative Ken Buck, a conservative from Colorado who voted to support her, and who derided Stefanik as a “liberal.”

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“Elise saw an opening for herself, and she was willing to join herself to Donald Trump and promote this big lie about the elections in order to gain power,” said Representative Katherine Clark of Melrose, who is the number four House Democrat. “That is not something that having worked with Elise over the years I would have thought her capable of.”
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Patagoniagirl wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:57 am I'll be interested to see how/if Daddy Dick deals with Little Liz's political whooping.
Is he still with us? He's been a ghost since being booted from office. I thought he was already dead. :shrug: Shot himself in the face, perhaps??
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He's very much alive, and still insisting that we can kill, conquer, and torture our way to peace and prosperity.

If he wanted to use his dark powers for political retribution, I wouldn't be opposed to him calling in his buddies with the "enhanced interrogation techniques" to go to work on the people who just gibbeted his daughter.

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fierceredpanda wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:51 am He's very much alive, and still insisting that we can kill, conquer, and torture our way to peace and prosperity.

If he wanted to use his dark powers for political retribution, I wouldn't be opposed to him calling in his buddies with the "enhanced interrogation techniques" to go to work on the people who just gibbeted his daughter.

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Really? He's been completely absent publicly. He does no news talk or interviews that I've seen. He disappeared.
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neonzx wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:13 am
fierceredpanda wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:51 am He's very much alive, and still insisting that we can kill, conquer, and torture our way to peace and prosperity.

If he wanted to use his dark powers for political retribution, I wouldn't be opposed to him calling in his buddies with the "enhanced interrogation techniques" to go to work on the people who just gibbeted his daughter.

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Really? He's been completely absent publicly. He does no news talk or interviews that I've seen. He disappeared.
Thankfully.
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He had not entirely disappeared. Earlier this year, he publically disagreed with the MAGA world though I forget where I wrote that. While I would not want him back near the positions of power, I would have no issue with him using his dark force powers against those who booted his daughter.
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I'm not positive, but I think he commented after the insurrection about his unhappiness about it. Or maybe it was after the election about the big lie. I don't think he would be upset with his daughter. I doubt if he wields much power anymore. I didn't think he had died, but I suspect (hope?) he's not as sharp as he used to be. He's evil; he's not stupid.
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So the guy who wants to primary Liz Cheney



He describes it as a Romeo and juliet romance... he stat raped a 14 year old when he was 18. Married her, divorced her 3 years later and she committed suicide. The son wants nothing to do with him
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Does it occur to him that Juliet died by suicide? :sick:
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Doubt he ever read it.
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Ugh. From the article linked above.

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Bouchard’s ex-wife killed herself when she was 20, he said. Online records list a woman with her name as being buried at a Jacksonville, Florida, cemetery in 1990. The Star-Tribune is choosing not to identify her.

“She had problems in another relationship. Her dad had committed suicide,” Bouchard said in the video.

After his ex-wife died, Bouchard said he continued to raise the couple's son, whom he briefly references in the video.

“Sadly, he's made some wrong choices in his life," he said. "He's almost become my estranged son. Some of the things that he's got going on his life, I certainly don't approve of them. But I'm not going to abandon him. I still love him. Just like when he was born.”
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Kendra wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 11:14 am Ugh. From the article linked above.

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Bouchard’s ex-wife killed herself when she was 20, he said. Online records list a woman with her name as being buried at a Jacksonville, Florida, cemetery in 1990. The Star-Tribune is choosing not to identify her.

“She had problems in another relationship. Her dad had committed suicide,” Bouchard said in the video.

After his ex-wife died, Bouchard said he continued to raise the couple's son, whom he briefly references in the video.

“Sadly, he's made some wrong choices in his life," he said. "He's almost become my estranged son. Some of the things that he's got going on his life, I certainly don't approve of them. But I'm not going to abandon him. I still love him. Just like when he was born.”
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Yup she committed suicide which makes his comment even more sick.
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Good thing for him he's white. That makes it "Romeo and Juliet Romance" instead of "Statutory Rape."
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Time to update the Topic Title :P
Representative Cheney calls for order
John M. Murphy, Professor of Communication, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Fri, May 21, 2021, 8:26 AM·6 min read

Liz Cheney reveres order. Donald Trump detests it. Simple, yes, but that sums up the difference between the elected but exiled U.S. congresswoman and the exiled but elected-in-his-own-mind former president. Countless critics have detailed Trump’s disruptive effects on national life, but Cheney’s call for order deserves attention. She offers a coherent, conservative alternative to Trumpist populism. As a scholar of American political speeches, I think it important to assess her persuasive force as well as her deep roots in the conservative tradition.

Like many of her conservative ancestors, Rep. Cheney believes that people have a fundamental need for order. Absent a clear set of inviolable rules, society will collapse. The value of order is most evident to those who have seen it disappear or who live in a world without rules. She began her May 11, 2021 speech on the House floor with examples of just such people, times when she witnessed freedom’s fragility. Kenyan soldiers chasing voters away from the polls. A Russian mayor telling her of his democratic dreams, only to be poisoned years later by “Vladimir Putin’s thugs.” A young Polish woman revealing her fear that people would forget the price of freedom.

Examples have strong psychological power on people because they are concrete and specific. Think of those advertisements that feature the faces of very real suffering animals, who might even look like your own beagle. In her speech, Cheney sets up the audience to see the world through the eyes of the characters in these stories, to feel what it means to lose democracy’s rules. Each is only one instance, but together, they form a pattern.

When there is no order, she’s saying, the powerful trample the ordinary and the rule of law protects no one. We all become prey. If the audience identifies with these people, that lends Cheney’s next argument more force. Americans, she says, now face the same threat. In a Washington Post essay from early May, she notes that former President Trump has “repeated his claims that the 2020 election was a fraud and stolen.” He does so, she argues, in the full knowledge that such words “provoked violence on Jan. 6.” He does so in the full knowledge that the “Electoral College has spoken.” He does so in the full knowledge that “more than 60” judges have rejected his claims, including many that he appointed.
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neonzx wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:29 am
Patagoniagirl wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:57 am I'll be interested to see how/if Daddy Dick deals with Little Liz's political whooping.
Is he still with us? He's been a ghost since being booted from office. I thought he was already dead. :shrug: Shot himself in the face, perhaps??
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Dr. Ken wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 10:37 am So the guy who wants to primary Liz Cheney



He describes it as a Romeo and juliet romance... he stat raped a 14 year old when he was 18. Married her, divorced her 3 years later...
And I'm not the least bit surprised.
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