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I’m beginning to see why Trump locked in on Jeff to take over DOJ to try and overturn the election. I also see why most of the senior leadership at DOJ said they would resign if he did.

Trump’s Attorney-General-Who-Never-Was is so proud of his pat on the head from the cult leader.
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Kendra wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:06 pm
I mean, alternative facts, sure, and if rapid-fire argument is considered shouting "WRONG!" over and over again, I could see it as a stretch.

Oh, wait, Clark meant this to be taken seriously? Seriously?!?

Um, no.
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He never demonstrated that ability in public arguments with people, from world leaders to reporters. He probably could make something ridiculous up and have 20 people try and tell him he's wrong for 45 minutes, which would use up the time of a meeting that he had nothing to contribute to. But that's not the same thing.
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That suckup makes Pence look like Henry David Thoreau.
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Former senior DOJ official Jeffrey Clark has lost his bid to pause his attorney discipline case in DC while all the other Jan. 6-related investigations are pending: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... -clark.pdf

Previously: https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/202 ... rk-advance
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The DC Board on Professional Responsibility is currently livestreaming (!!!) a pre-hearing conference in Jeff Clark's bar discipline case
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Jeffy stays focused on what matters to him... transphobia.


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Wikipedia has now become the final arbiter on law? :brickwallsmall:

I thought every high school student gets to hear that they cannot base their homework on that website.
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RTH10260 wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:28 am Wikipedia has now become the final arbiter on law? :brickwallsmall:

I thought every high school student gets to hear that they cannot base their homework on that website.
Also, too, that is the opposite of what Wikipedia actually says in the link provided, you'll be astonished to find out :faint:
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And there are exactly two people to blame for this: Kevin McCarthy and Jim Jordan - for making the monumentally foolish decision to order their caucus to refuse to participate. You reap what your corruption sows.
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I remember getting chewed out by a teacher for once using Reader’s Digest as a source, sooooooo yeah on Wikipedia.
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Justice Department attorney Jeffrey Bossert Clark asked a federal court on Monday to intervene in a legal disciplinary case pending against him over his efforts to help former President Donald Trump overturn his 2020 election loss.

In his lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Clark argues that the District of Columbia Court of Appeals and the local bodies of the D.C. Bar responsible for filing and adjudicating disciplinary proceedings against attorneys do not have the jurisdiction to bring ethics charges against him.

Clark, who previously led the Justice Department's Environment and Natural Resources Division and temporarily led the Civil Division, argues that "no state possesses the power to supervise the internal operations and deliberations of any branch of the federal government."
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The D.C. Bar is still collecting evidence against Clark, and earlier this month subpoenaed additional documents, including "any documents supporting the contention that you were Acting Attorney General on January 3, 2021."

In a statement, one of Clark's attorneys said the ethics case against Clark represents a "flagrant misuse" of the disciplinary function and sets a "dangerous precedent."
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IANAL, but not really sure he’s gonna get better treatment in the DC District where the judges have all been hearing case after case about Jan 6 & the big lie.
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Greatgrey wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:39 pm IANAL, but not really sure he’s gonna get better treatment in the DC District where the judges have all been hearing case after case about Jan 6 & the big lie.
But Clark will get delay, especially if there's an appeal following the dennnial.
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bob wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:44 pm But Clark will get delay, especially if there's an appeal following the dennnial.
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You think either the district court or the D.D. Circuit would stay the order of remand? I don't, although I should acknowledge limited experience with pathologically bad notices of removal.

Also, district courts usually turn around a motion to remand a stupid notice of removal pretty quickly.
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chancery wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:08 pmYou think either the district court or the D.D. Circuit would stay the order of remand?
Maaaaaaybe.

It would depend on how well written the arguments are (and who the judges are). Sufficiently colorable arguments may persuade just enough of the right people that an appeal (and stay pending appeal) are warranted to settle the issues.
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bob wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:22 pm
chancery wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:08 pmYou think either the district court or the D.D. Circuit would stay the order of remand?
Maaaaaaybe.

It would depend on how well written the arguments are (and who the judges are). Sufficiently colorable arguments may persuade just enough of the right people that an appeal (and stay pending appeal) are warranted to settle the issues.
On thinking about this a little more, there might be an issue under the federal officer removal statute, 28 U.S.C. § 1442. It's worked before: - Kolibash v. Committee on Legal Ethics of the West Virginia Bar, 872 F. 2d 571 (4th Cir. 1989). https://m.openjurist.org/872/f2d/571/ko ... rginia-bar

A West Virginia lawyer in private practice represented a client in a grand jury proceeding. Shortly afterwards, he took a job as an Assistant United States Attorney and proceeded to represent the government in questioning witnesses before the same grand jury. The state bar started an investigation of the lawyer for conflict of interest and and his supervisor for professionally inadequate supervision.

The two lawyers removed the proceeding to federal court, the district court remanded, and the supervisor appealed. The Fourth Circuit possibly (it wasn’t at issue in this appeal) didn’t have problem with remanding the investigation of the lawyer with a conflict of interest problem, but reversed the remand as to the supervisor, saying that there was a potential federal officer immunity issue that supported federal jurisdiction.

And I don’t know enough to say whether there is a similar issue for Clark.
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Government lawyers -- particularly USDOJ lawyers -- arguing they should not be bound by state ethical rules is a thing, a thing with a long gross history.
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Attorney discipline cases in DC fall under the jurisdiction of the city's highest local court, the DC Court of Appeals. Clark is a member of the DC Bar, but is arguing local entities can't "supervise the internal operations and deliberations of the Executive Branch"
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Trump ally Clark asks U.S. court to block disciplinary charges against him

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Mon, October 17, 2022 at 11:33 PM·

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Justice Department attorney Jeffrey Bossert Clark asked a federal court on Monday to intervene in a legal disciplinary case pending against him over his efforts to help former President Donald Trump overturn his 2020 election loss.

In his lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Clark argues that the District of Columbia Court of Appeals and the local bodies of the D.C. Bar responsible for filing and adjudicating disciplinary proceedings against attorneys do not have the jurisdiction to bring ethics charges against him.

Clark, who previously led the Justice Department's Environment and Natural Resources Division and temporarily led the Civil Division, argues that "no state possesses the power to supervise the internal operations and deliberations of any branch of the federal government."

The ethics case against him, the lawsuit says, represents a "direct attack on the fundamental principle of separation of powers."

Hamilton "Phil" Fox, the head of the office that brought the ethics charges, declined to immediately comment on the lawsuit, but said he does not believe that any of the D.C. Bar's disciplinary cases have ever been removed to federal court.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ally-c ... 50381.html
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What a smackdown.

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Suing the DC Board of Professional Responsibility is a perfect move. It worked so well for GIL the first, second, third, fourth... time.
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