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The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 6:53 am
by Foggy
Apparently this racist kid who murdered ten people in Buffalo was motivated by the Great Replacement theory.

And here's a story (both from WaPo) about the roots of the theory.

I think we need to stay on top of current events. :smoking:

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 7:10 am
by bill_g
This xenophobic bit has been around a while ala "they're taking our jobs". It's been dusted off and given a fresh name.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 7:14 am
by Foggy
Yeah, and it's resulting in a lot of violence over the past few years. This is a little different and a lot more serious than the birther morons.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 7:48 am
by bill_g
Let's show some recent history.

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Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 7:49 am
by neeneko
I suspect we are going to see a lot more of it over the next few decades, in no small part pumped by Russia and China. Both nations are in demographic collapse, while the US is surviving its own via immigration. If not for immigration, the US would probably be in serious trouble too, so I could see countries that are in trouble pushing it in the US.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 7:51 am
by bill_g
Xpost from "Another shooting".
pipistrelle wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 6:48 am

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:24 am
by bill_g
There are no coincidences.


Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:54 am
by bill_g
Elise Stefanik is a fan of the concept, but she can be replaced by a few votes too.

Rep Stefanik Pushes Racist Theory

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 10:17 am
by neeneko
bill_g wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 8:24 am There are no coincidences.
Esp not in this case. Abortion has always been tied to economic pressures and class/race anxiety, and tends to become a bigger and bigger sin as people worry there are not enough of their own kind to keep the economy going up and up.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 10:39 am
by Kendra
Don’t forget that the Republican National Committee censured Adam Kinzinger for being anti-Trump but did nothing when Matt Gaetz promoted Replacement Theory.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 10:59 am
by AndyinPA
I agree this has been around for a long time, but it's being brought to the forefront given the political climate these days. I had noticed that Alito didn't really have a problem using it. I was actually aghast that he talked about it in his opinion. That was really saying the quiet part out loud.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:11 am
by AndyinPA
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... vil-rights
While more Americans are becoming aware of the theory, it is not new. It is the same concept that once made interracial marriage illegal, spawned Jim Crow and motivated southern segregationists to switch to the Republican party. At its foundation lies the desperate attempt to preserve and maintain control based on nothing more than being born into whiteness. It is about white power. Unfortunately (for the white majority), the only way to preserve white power is to stop moving forward.

It is easy to frame a lone gunman’s brazen act of lawlessness and the fearmongering ethnonationalism that produced it as a prototypical but rare act of white supremacy. But that narrative obscures a variety of legally sanctioned acts of violence inflicted upon America’s non-white populace every day.

The fight to create a less perfect union isn’t just reflected in white extremist terrorism and Fox News’s primetime lineup. It is an all-encompassing strategy bent on rewinding progress to a time when whiteness was synonymous with purity and perfection. Not since Reconstruction has this country so blatantly sought to reverse progress and strip away the most fundamental rights, including the right to vote, a woman’s right to control her body, and even the right to exist as a full and equal human being.

The leaked brief detailing the US supreme court’s draft ruling to overturn a woman’s right to choose is another expression of this great American moonwalk. If true, the institution that once decided that Black people “have no rights which the white man was bound to respect” will soon hand over the authority to decide whether or not women must carry a pregnancy to full term to 50 separate overwhelmingly white, male-dominated state legislatures.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:46 pm
by bill_g
Wait until they find out that overturning Roe will result in more black babies. OH NOZZZ!!!

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 5:34 pm
by neeneko
bill_g wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 4:46 pm Wait until they find out that overturning Roe will result in more black babies. OH NOZZZ!!!
Gotta keep those private prison stocks and police dept funding high somehow.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:18 pm
by poplove

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:03 am
by bill_g
:like:

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:53 am
by Ben-Prime
poplove wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:18 pm
To be fair, this is not a new riff for Titus. His 2006 CD "The Fifth Annual End of the World Tour" has a cringy-in-word-choice-but-amazing-in-tone-and-theme bit about how in his 'careful' analysis of race relations, it's usually the white people who have caused the problem and most POCs would be okay without financial or logistical reparations if only there was the emotional acknowledgement of someone actually saying "You're right, I'm sorry." So the joke is that he apologizes on behalf of Wypipo to every other race/color that has been wronged by us, in a cascade that just as he finishes apologizing to one race, he says something that reminds him of how badly we jacked up another people and then launches into the next apology.

This was 16 years ago, and the rest of the album has its moments -- again, based on the time -- of language that wouldn't fly today, like the use of the 'r' word to indicate stupidity; but the concept behind it is otherwise solid, I just busted it out again two weeks ago to play for some friends for the race relations angle; and I put Chris Titus in the same category as Trae Crowder and similar 'whisperers'.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 9:36 am
by Slim Cognito
Always been a fan.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 10:14 am
by roadscholar
Y yo también.

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 11:57 am
by Volkonski

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 12:31 pm
by Jim
White folks scared of being treated like they treat others...ask native americans how the white replacement actions in our history worked

Re: The "Great Replacement" theory

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 12:53 am
by raison de arizona