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Okay, look for Trump publishing a letter he wrote to someone in the Alabama Junior Klan or the Hitler Youth now. :smoking:
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Florida mayor laughs off Biden's hot mic f-bomb

Mike Memoli and Zoë Richards
Thu, October 6, 2022 at 5:02 AM·3 min read

When President Joe Biden met Ray Murphy, the mayor of Fort Myers Beach, Florida, on Wednesday, the two quickly discovered they had a lot in common. Maybe too much in common.

They got chummy very quickly, so much so that the president may have forgotten that television cameras and microphones were close enough to hear him tell the mayor: “Nobody f---s with a Biden.”

Biden made the remark as he was chatting with Murphy during his second storm-related trip this week, this time to survey Hurricane Ian's damage to the Fort Myers region, where Murphy has been mayor since 2020.

The president met with Murphy and other local officials and residents and delivered remarks at a joint news conference with the state’s Republican governor, Ron DeSantis.

“It was not directed at anybody. It was just two guys talking,” Murphy said in a phone interview shortly after Biden's remark went viral. “It didn’t faze me one bit. That’s just the way two guys talk to each other from our respective backgrounds.”



https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-mayo ... 46160.html
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Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 wrote: Reuters: BIDEN IS PARDONING ALL PRIOR FEDERAL OFFENSES OF SIMPLE MARIJUANA POSSESSION -WHITE HOUSE
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YUGE!!! Welcomed!!! Thanks, Joe!
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Another difference to tell yer friends. Republicans are pushing the death penalty for drug dealers. Democrats are pardoning marijuana users and pushing for federal legalization.
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A Proclamation on Granting Pardon for the Offense of Simple Possession of Marijuana
OCTOBER 06, 2022

PRESIDENTIAL ACTIONS
Acting pursuant to the grant of authority in Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution of the United States, I, Joseph R. Biden Jr., do hereby grant a full, complete, and unconditional pardon to (1) all current United States citizens and lawful permanent residents who committed the offense of simple possession of marijuana in violation of the Controlled Substances Act, as currently codified at 21 U.S.C. 844 and as previously codified elsewhere in the United States Code, or in violation of D.C. Code 48–904.01(d)(1), on or before the date of this proclamation, regardless of whether they have been charged with or prosecuted for this offense on or before the date of this proclamation; and (2) all current United States citizens and lawful permanent residents who have been convicted of the offense of simple possession of marijuana in violation of the Controlled Substances Act, as currently codified at 21 U.S.C. 844 and as previously codified elsewhere in the United States Code, or in violation of D.C. Code 48–904.01(d)(1); which pardon shall restore to them full political, civil, and other rights.

My intent by this proclamation is to pardon only the offense of simple possession of marijuana in violation of Federal law or in violation of D.C. Code 48–904.01(d)(1), and not any other offenses related to marijuana or other controlled substances. No language herein shall be construed to pardon any person for any other offense, including possession of other controlled substances, whether committed prior, subsequent, or contemporaneous to the pardoned offense of simple possession of marijuana. This pardon does not apply to individuals who were non-citizens not lawfully present in the United States at the time of their offense.

Pursuant to this proclamation, the Attorney General, acting through the Pardon Attorney, shall administer and effectuate the issuance of certificates of pardon to eligible applicants who have been charged or convicted for the offense of simple possession of marijuana in violation of the Controlled Substances Act, as currently codified at 21 U.S.C. 844 and as previously codified elsewhere in the United States Code, or in violation of D.C. Code 48–904.01(d)(1). The Attorney General, acting through the Pardon Attorney, is directed to develop and announce application procedures for certificates of pardon and to begin accepting applications in accordance with such procedures as soon as reasonably practicable. The Attorney General, acting through the Pardon Attorney, shall review all properly submitted applications and shall issue certificates of pardon to eligible applicants in due course.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this sixth day of October, in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty-two, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and forty-seventh.

JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR.
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More of this, please.
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Yeah, and to think, all you have to do is send hi-tech arms and nuclear secrets to the Saudis, who have so much American blood on their hands, to get the oil flowing again. What a turd.
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Overcoming his own reservations, Mr. Biden went along with advisers who had argued that it was worth the political hit to restore ties with Saudi Arabia for a variety of reasons, such as the need to bolster energy markets given the effort to isolate Russia, one of the biggest oil producers in the world. While no specific announcements were made during Mr. Biden’s visit to Jeddah in July, U.S. officials said at the time that they had an understanding with Saudi Arabia that it would increase oil production in the fall and lower gasoline prices heading into the crucial congressional elections.

The Saudi decision to do the opposite last week in defiance of American entreaties was a blow to Mr. Biden and opened him to further criticism even from fellow Democrats who argued that Saudi Arabia should be punished. Three House Democrats announced legislation requiring the removal of U.S. troops and defensive systems from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/11/us/p ... n-cut.html
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My uneducated interpretation is that the Saudis anyhow don't see much in common with any Democratic administration. At this moment they just as well may try and influene the mid-term elections, hoping that the Republicans may get the upper hand in Congress if they can demonstrate that Biden is a loser and cannot deal with the situation. A change in majorities may be an indication of who the next pous may become, of coure a Republican hopeful who will keep better and uncritical ties with the Saudis.
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Am I missing something or is this purely to void a popular Biden administration initiative?
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pipistrelle wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:09 pm Am I missing something or is this purely to void a popular Biden administration initiative?
On the face of it, that seems extremely stupid.
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pipistrelle wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:09 pm Am I missing something or is this purely to void a popular Biden administration initiative?
It is partly that, maybe mostly that.

But it reminds me of what many Americans thought when after the American entry into WW I our European allies, to whom we had loaned money to fight the war, asked that as allies in a common fight their loans be forgiven. The attitude of many Americans who opposed forgiving the loans was- "They hired the money didn't they?"
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Well, it IS popular with a lot of people, but there are *also* a lot of people who feel it's unfair for their tax dollars to go towards paying someone else's school loans - especially among people who took out and paid off their own loans.
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Kriselda Gray wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:22 pm Well, it IS popular with a lot of people, but there are *also* a lot of people who feel it's unfair for their tax dollars to go towards paying someone else's school loans - especially among people who took out and paid off their own loans.
I had a visceral negative reaction to the constant flow of student loan tweets in response to any Biden admin. accomplishment. But I paid my student loan off decades ago within a couple of years of graduating. I recognize it's a different ball game.

As part of student loan forgiveness, I'd like to see some parameters set around college/university administrative staff and costs.
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Kriselda Gray wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:22 pm Well, it IS popular with a lot of people, but there are *also* a lot of people who feel it's unfair for their tax dollars to go towards paying someone else's school loans - especially among people who took out and paid off their own loans.
*shrug* Born wrong year, went to college in wrong era. :shrug: That's just the way it goes.
Plus, it's $20k max. Even going to a state school for undergrad many accumulate more than that in student loans

Oh, and then if there is post-secondary-- that they are into the 6 figures of debt unless they have a rich uncle
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My small town physician father could pay for all seven of us children to attend private colleges (graduating in 1968, 1971, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1982, and 1989). I know my brother borrowed from my folks for med school, but three of my sisters paid for their own advanced degree and the company I worked for paid for mine. None of us were saddled with crushing debt. My husband had a student loan, but it was easily affordable for us to pay off.

Fast forward to the present time and I am flabbergasted at what my physician brother has paid for his four daughters to attend a private college. The girls have taken college classes for free while attending high school so they could finish college in three years. But college was still a huge amount.

I can’t emphasize enough what an asset it is to America to have an educated population. You want educated workers. You want educated parents. You want young folks affording children and houses. It benefits ALL of us. It’s a national resource as much as highways and bridges and hospitals and fire fighters. (Don’t even get me started on health care being a national asset too!)

Anyway, so that’s why I gladly pay my taxes and support taxpayer supported higher education. I wholeheartedly support the forgiveness of student debt and I wish that students could discharge debts through bankruptcy. Not allowing that is insane.
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Yeah, what MN-Skeptic said. Absolutely 150%.
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