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Trump v. Clinton (S.D. Fla., 2:22cv-14102)

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Re: Trump v. Clinton (S.D. Fla., 2:22cv-14102)

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bob wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:21 pm
Reality Check wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:38 pm
filly wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:35 pm Not taking time to read this BS. But the venue seems to be problematic for the “Plaintiff.”
I wondered about that. Shouldn't it be in DC?
From the complaint:
Venue is proper in this District pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1391(b)(2) because at least one Defendant and the Plaintiff reside in this District and a substantial part of the events or omissions giving rise to the Plaintiffs’ claims occurred in this District. In this regard, the publications of injurious falsehoods were intended to occur in the Southern District of Florida, and they did occur in the Southern District of Florida.
28 U.S.C. sec. 1391(b)(2):
A civil action may be brought in ... a judicial district in which a substantial part of the events or omissions giving rise to the claim occurred, or a substantial part of property that is the subject of the action is situated....
So where a plaintiff and a defendant reside is irrelevant. And the plaintiff didn't reside in 2016 in Florida.

But other than vague, conclusory "and Florida was affected" allegations, there's nothing linking this case to Florida. Meanwhile, the DNC is headquartered in DC, and Clinton's campaign was headquartered in New York.

This suit is a Klayman-esque grift, not designed to win but to chum for rubes with loose wallets. And, like Klayman, it was filed in a venue that was most convenient for the plaintiff's lawyer.
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Hello Twombly my old friend
I'm citing Iqbal once again
Because a lolsuit softly creeping
Hit a court while I was sleeping
And the response that was planted in my brain
Still remains
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AndyinPA wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:44 pm I assume he listens to no one but the little gremlins running around his brain.
And there are just two of them:

Avarice, greed in it's most pure and destructive form...

And the ghost of Fred Sr...who just says "loser" over and over and over...
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He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"

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W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:03 pm Hello Twombly my old friend
I'm citing Iqbal once again
Because a lolsuit softly creeping
Hit a court while I was sleeping
And the response that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Another round of SLAPPing
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The first two lines have been running through my head since late Fogbow 1.0 whenever GIL comes up. Finally decided to scratch that itch.
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:15 pm I firmly believe that Trump absolutely believes what he wants to believe. He totally believes that Biden could not have beaten him, that the election was somehow rigged. He totally believes that Democrats conspired against him. He was just a sitting duck for Alina Habba to feed his ego and have him sign off on this lawsuit. Trump may be savvy at manipulating people, but he really fails at critical analysis. His ego gets in the way.
Trump doesn't believe ANYTHING, firmly or otherwise, except his own greatness.

He will SAY he believes anything that he thinks will help him at the moment.
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noblepa wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:45 pm
MN-Skeptic wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:15 pm I firmly believe that Trump absolutely believes what he wants to believe. He totally believes that Biden could not have beaten him, that the election was somehow rigged. He totally believes that Democrats conspired against him. He was just a sitting duck for Alina Habba to feed his ego and have him sign off on this lawsuit. Trump may be savvy at manipulating people, but he really fails at critical analysis. His ego gets in the way.
Trump doesn't believe ANYTHING, firmly or otherwise, except his own greatness.

He will SAY he believes anything that he thinks will help him at the moment.
:yeahthat:

The fact that MSM can't warp their collective head around this--or refuse to do so because it would blow up their reporting methodology and templates--is a serious problem.
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If he just believed in his own greatness he would be Marlon Brando - not giving a fuck what anyone thought of him.

But he does not. So he makes people applaud him say he is great, desperately tries to hang out with big men, talks about how people like him and have emotional outbursts, proves he really won an election, take revenge to make himself the alpha again at every slight, sues people who say he is just a millionaire, etc.
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Am I correct in my belief that a defendant can demand a trial RIGHT FRIKKEN NOW and if the Plaintiff says "but we'z ain't ready yet" you can say "they you shoulda maybe waited to file, let's go!

I mean, the court has scheduling issues but clear the calendar, Martha, we're gonna hear this very impotent case now!
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Gregg wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:50 pm Am I correct in my belief that a defendant can demand a trial RIGHT FRIKKEN NOW and if the Plaintiff says "but we'z ain't ready yet" you can say "they you shoulda maybe waited to file, let's go!
No.

The right to a speedy trial applies only to criminal prosecutions.
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I'm aware, but isn't it hard for the plaintiff to delay it?
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WK, bravo!
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bob wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:52 pm
Gregg wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:50 pm Am I correct in my belief that a defendant can demand a trial RIGHT FRIKKEN NOW and if the Plaintiff says "but we'z ain't ready yet" you can say "they you shoulda maybe waited to file, let's go!
No.

The right to a speedy trial applies only to criminal prosecutions.
Please a refresher, RICO charges can be made in a civil case too or are they only part of a criminal case? Would they have to be split off and transferred to an DA / AG to follow up?
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RTH10260 wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:07 am Please a refresher, RICO charges can be made in a civil case too or are they only part of a criminal case?
"Civil RICO" is a thing, i.e., there is a civil cause of action for RICO.

But it is complex. And, as alluded to (here and elsewhere), conclusory allegations of "YOU DID THE RICO!!!" aren't going survive a motion to dismiss.

Query: Does this plaintiff even want to survive a motion to dismiss? Or is he just playing the martyr (while begging for more money)?
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He did it to disclose home addresses of all the defendants. He wants you to go to their houses and fuck them up. If you won't do it, someone else will. It's all about doxxing his enemies in a legal way.
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W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:45 pm The first two lines have been running through my head since late Fogbow 1.0 whenever GIL comes up. Finally decided to scratch that itch.
Excellent work!
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Foggy wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:38 am He did it to disclose home addresses of all the defendants. He wants you to go to their houses and fuck them up. If you won't do it, someone else will. It's all about doxxing his enemies in a legal way.
Agreed.

These MAGA assholes don’t have to worry about their security! Like people won’t fill the streets in front of Clarence Thomas’s house. But the terrorists in Michigan were outside SOS Jocelyn Benson’s home with long guns! I’ve been thinking about this for a long time.
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After filing a $72 million lawsuit against Hillary Clinton over the 2016 election, Trump’s attorney Alina Habba says more lawsuits are coming as soon as next week: “There’s more to come soon .. Anybody that’s going to try and make up malicious stories .. is going to be sued.”
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Twelve years old, but …..

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After filing a $72 million lawsuit against Hillary Clinton over the 2016 election, Trump’s attorney Alina Habba says more lawsuits are coming as soon as next week: “There’s more to come soon .. Anybody that’s going to try and make up malicious stories .. is going to be sued.”
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Who is left to sue?
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David Cay Johnson, Maggie Halbermann, Robert Costa, Bob Woodward…
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