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Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:59 am
by realist
Slim Cognito wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:48 am Was this a jury trial or does he have THAT judge?
Jury trial.
Guy Reffitt, a 49-year-old member of the far-right “Texas Three Percenters” militia group, was found guilty on all five of the felony charges he faced, including bringing a gun onto the Capitol grounds and obstructing an official proceeding.

A federal jury in Washington, DC, handed down the unanimous verdict against Reffitt after just two hours of deliberation.
https://nypost.com/2022/03/08/guy-reffi ... iot-trial/

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:14 pm
by Volkonski

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:31 pm
by Kendra
Remember in light of these comments that Reffitt's wife, Nicole, was joined by Ashli Babbitt's mother in court today and after Reffitt was convicted at trial she told other Jan. 6 defendants not to take plea deals.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:51 pm
by raison de arizona
Kendra wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:31 pm https://twitter.com/alex_mallin/status/ ... 2583918593
Remember in light of these comments that Reffitt's wife, Nicole, was joined by Ashli Babbitt's mother in court today and after Reffitt was convicted at trial she told other Jan. 6 defendants not to take plea deals.
Off Topic
Rudy Giuliani had Ashli Babbitt's mother on his podcast on Friday. It was Really Something. They're nutso. I may write it up for the Giuliani thread.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:57 pm
by MN-Skeptic
7.25 years.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:58 pm
by Dr. Ken


Yes please J6 defendents go to trial don't plea down.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:28 pm
by Volkonski
Not even half of what the DOJ wanted but it will keep him away from the Capitol for a while.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:39 pm
by Kendra
:?: Has anyone reported if he's going directly to jail, or does he surrender at a later date?

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:46 pm
by bob
Kendra wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:39 pmHas anyone reported if he's going directly to jail, or does he surrender at a later date?
Reffitt initially was denied bail pending trial in 2021.

Reffitt could ask for bail pending appeal, but that's unlikely to be granted, so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even ask.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:58 pm
by Volkonski

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:00 pm
by Volkonski
Normal people don't fall to their knees before Trump.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:42 pm
by raison de arizona
Volkonski wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:00 pm Normal people don't fall to their knees before Trump.
Normal people don't storm the Capitol carrying a gun and zip ties either. That the judge wouldn't do the "terrorism enhancement" for him leads me to believe that we aren't going to see that for any of these folks. :mad:

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:21 pm
by Kendra
bob wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:46 pm
Kendra wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:39 pmHas anyone reported if he's going directly to jail, or does he surrender at a later date?
Reffitt initially was denied bail pending trial in 2021.

Reffitt could ask for bail pending appeal, but that's unlikely to be granted, so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even ask.
TY Bob, very helpful as always.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:54 pm
by Kendra


FLASH:
Minutes after Guy Reffitt was sentenced to 7 years in Capitol riot case... his daughter calls for "life in prison" for Donald Trump

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:02 pm
by sugar magnolia
So, trump fans no longer?

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:05 pm
by Kendra
:shrug: They never learn, ETTD.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:56 pm
by Dr. Ken
Kendra wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:54 pm

FLASH:
Minutes after Guy Reffitt was sentenced to 7 years in Capitol riot case... his daughter calls for "life in prison" for Donald Trump
Sorry lady but your dad is a horrible person

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:00 pm
by Maybenaut
raison de arizona wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:42 pm
Volkonski wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:00 pm Normal people don't fall to their knees before Trump.
Normal people don't storm the Capitol carrying a gun and zip ties either. That the judge wouldn't do the "terrorism enhancement" for him leads me to believe that we aren't going to see that for any of these folks. :mad:
To qualify for the terrorism enhancement under the federal sentencing guidelines, there has to be a “federal crime of terrorism.” As I understand it, those crimes are specifically identified in the guidelines, and it doesn’t appear that the judge believed Reffitt committed any of them. I don’t have an opinion one way or the other on the judge’s ruling, but I don’t believe he was charged with any of those crimes.

That’s not to say that others who, unlike Reffitt, entered the capital and damaged government property, might not earn the enhancement. Time will tell.

The federal crimes of terrorism are defined in the link under section (g)(5).

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USC ... c2332b.pdf

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:02 pm
by keith
bob wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:46 pm
Kendra wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:39 pmHas anyone reported if he's going directly to jail, or does he surrender at a later date?
Reffitt initially was denied bail pending trial in 2021.

Reffitt could ask for bail pending appeal, but that's unlikely to be granted, so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even ask.
Judge (tfg appointee) rejected DOJ terrorism enhancement.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:19 pm
by raison de arizona
Maybenaut wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:00 pm
raison de arizona wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:42 pm
Volkonski wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:00 pm Normal people don't fall to their knees before Trump.
Normal people don't storm the Capitol carrying a gun and zip ties either. That the judge wouldn't do the "terrorism enhancement" for him leads me to believe that we aren't going to see that for any of these folks. :mad:
To qualify for the terrorism enhancement under the federal sentencing guidelines, there has to be a “federal crime of terrorism.” As I understand it, those crimes are specifically identified in the guidelines, and it doesn’t appear that the judge believed Reffitt committed any of them. I don’t have an opinion one way or the other on the judge’s ruling, but I don’t believe he was charged with any of those crimes.

That’s not to say that others who, unlike Reffitt, entered the capital and damaged government property, might not earn the enhancement. Time will tell.

The federal crimes of terrorism are defined in the link under section (g)(5).

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USC ... c2332b.pdf
Thank you for the education!

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:04 am
by Kendra
CNN's New Day says they'll have Reffitt's son on the air. They've got two hours of airtime left on today's show, so hopefully I won't fall back asleep before the interview :oldlady:

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:36 pm
by Ben-Prime
Dr. Ken wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:56 pm
Kendra wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:54 pm
Minutes after Guy Reffitt was sentenced to 7 years in Capitol riot case... his daughter calls for "life in prison" for Donald Trump
Sorry lady but your dad is a horrible person
And, alas, T.S. Eliot said it best: "The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason." We may all want Trump to spend life in prison, but it's not because Reffitt is going there, per se.

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:42 pm
by raison de arizona
Kendra wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:04 am CNN's New Day says they'll have Reffitt's son on the air. They've got two hours of airtime left on today's show, so hopefully I won't fall back asleep before the interview :oldlady:
He was interviewed extensively on the Will Be Wild Podcast, highly recommended: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/w ... 0556715324

Re: USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:43 am
by Kendra

Elsewhere in Capitol riot land, Guy Reffitt has filed notice of the expected appeal of his conviction and 87 month sentence.

USA vs. GUY WESLEY REFFITT

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:52 pm
by Kendra
Guy Reffitt, the Texas man who was first to stand trial in a Capitol riot case and was convicted by jury of bringing gun on to Capitol grounds, is now serving his prison sentence at the La Tuna federal correctional facility in Texas.
Estimated release date: March 2027
:bunny: