OK, now y'all know why I couldn't be trusted attacking birthers and all.
That's what I'd say if I got in a discussion with anyone who supported book burning, just to show them a point. Those are not my real sentiments at all.
My dad is a lifelong and committed Christian, and many of my friends.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:52 pm
by neonzx
Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:05 pm
I want the Bible banned. Have y'all read some of the stories in there?
Yeah, the bible is porn central. Never understood how some of it could be whitewashed in Sunday school.
Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:00 pm
by MN-Skeptic
neonzx wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:52 pm
Yeah, the bible is porn central. Never understood how some of it could be whitewashed in Sunday school.
I went to a Lutheran college. I remember one prof reading the story of Jacob who worked for Laban for seven years so that he could marry Laban's younger daughter, Rachel. Laban deceives Jacob by substituting his less desirable, older daughter Leah. The prof first read the story from a child's Bible story book. It tells how Jacob was deceived and was upset when he discovered the deception. Then the prof read the story from the Bible. In the Bible you discover that the substitution was made in the evening, and Jacob discovered the substitution the following morning!
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:49 pm
by Lani
Sunday School scared the shit out of me.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:11 am
by Foggy
Off Topic
We had to wear unwearable clothing to church on Sunday morning. I kept getting too big for my Sunday clothes. It was literally painful to wear clothes too small.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:43 pm
by bob
RTH10260 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:42 am
Question: is it lawful (constitutionally permissable) to forbid someone from receiving help?
Short answer: No.
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Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:05 pm
Oh man, the Bible. That book is RAUNCHY. I don't want my precious Christian children, raised in the Lord by reading the ... umm ... the ... umm ...
There's the bit in "A Clockwork Orange," in which Alex finds religion in prison.
Turns out he's reading Bible for all the sex and violence.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:19 pm
by Suranis
This is the second time I've seen this mentioned so I'll just copy and paste my reply to that...
Correction: He offers to send out his daughters to an angry mob rather than have them assault a traveler that he has given shelter in his home. The mob don't go for it.
In that culture giving shelter and aid to travelers was seen as extremely important. Demanding that someone break that trust was one of the worst things you could do. The whole point of the scene was to show how desperate to the man was to avoid breaking that taboo that in desperation he offered the mob his daughters, but they wanted the travelers, which showed how beyond immoral the mob was.
Aiding travelers was a very important thing in cultures all over the middle east. Breaking that was a constant morality theme in stories from that area ad beyond, such as Homers Oddessy. That was one of the reasons Odysseus killed all his Wifes Suiters at the end. Throwing out travellers was show as one reason they all deserved to die.
th story of Lot is supposed to be shocking, especially if you understand it in context.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:02 am
by RTH10260
Students sue Wentzville School District over book banning
Blythe Bernhard 8 hrs ago 6
WENTZVILLE — The Wentzville School Board voted 7-0 Tuesday to keep a challenged book in school libraries, just hours after students filed a lawsuit against the district for removing other books.
Two students sued the Wentzville School District in federal court Tuesday for violating their civil rights by banning books from school libraries, including “The Bluest Eye” by Nobel Prize winner Toni Morrison.
Lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union of Missouri are representing the two students, who are identified only by the initials C.K.-W. and D.L. in the class action lawsuit.
Removing books threatens the students’ abilities “to learn and engage with a diversity of ideas and information, including seeing their own experiences reflected in the books and developing greater understanding of the experiences of others,” according to the suit, which seeks to have the books returned to school libraries.
Also Tuesday, the Wentzville board unanimously approved the recommendation of the district’s book challenge committee to retain “Gabi, a Girl in Pieces” by Isabel Quintero. The book, a coming-of-age story of a Mexican-American teenager, had been challenged by Renee Henke for foul language and depiction of rape.
When America is broken into pieces because these yahoos can’t understand the changed world in any form, you will NOT find me in one of these Stupid States.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:52 pm
by neeneko
So one of the mothers tesitfying was upset that her daughter found a book with a same sex couple. I wonder how she would feel about the library having to remove all book containing opposite sex romances?
Then again, I have a feeling that the people clutching their pearls like this are not exactly readers in the first place and would see no loss in libraries being devoid of, well, books.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:01 pm
by Phoenix520
Parents who want specific books banned should have to prove they’ve actually read the book before their request is considered. They should pick specific passages and demonstrate why it’s profane or obscene… AND THEN replace it with a passage they would accept that conveys the same message.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:54 pm
by Tiredretiredlawyer
neeneko wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:52 pm
So one of the mothers tesitfying was upset that her daughter found a book with a same sex couple. I wonder how she would feel about the library having to remove all book containing opposite sex romances?
Then again, I have a feeling that the people clutching their pearls like this are not exactly readers in the first place and would see no loss in libraries being devoid of, well, books.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:00 pm
by Tiredretiredlawyer
Phoenix - You want them to read critically (as in critical reading skills, not judgmentally) comprehend what they read, and write their contrasting view. These are concepts taught beginning in fifth grade through senior year. You are asking a lot of these book banners.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:53 pm
by Volkonski
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:38 pm
by Frater I*I
How long will it be before we have to change the thread title from banning to burning...
It feels like I'm living in the book the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich....
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:36 pm
by Lani
Frater I*I wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:38 pm
How long will it be before we have to change the thread title from banning to burning...
It feels like I'm living in the book the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich....
I've been feeling that way for awhile.
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:08 pm
by Volkonski
Re: Book Banning
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:15 pm
by raison de arizona
Right wing extremist and Idaho State Representative Heather Scott is putting on a “book burning” event to “remove inappropriate materials from our schools & libraries” at Regeneration Calvary Chapel in Kootenai on April 28th.
The “inappropriate material” is “LGBTQIA+ content.”
Brooklyn Public Library is offering free digital library cards to young adults in the US The move is intended to counteract a growing book censorship movement
By Emma Roth Apr 25, 2022, 3:56pm EDT
New York
The Brooklyn Public Library (BPL) is counteracting a ban on certain books by letting anyone in the US aged 13 to 21 apply for a digital library card. This gives teens and young adults, regardless of their location in the United States, access to the library’s entire ebook collection.
The initiative, called Books Unbanned, is fighting what the BPL describes as an “increasingly coordinated and effective effort to remove books tackling a wide range of topics from library shelves.” According to the American Library Association (ALA), a total of 729 books were challenged in 2021, meaning a person or group attempted to ban these titles from public libraries.
