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Yeah, Windows 11.

Not a big change, like Win95 or Win2000. I can hardly tell any important differences so far, except it changed all my Start button links from programs I actually use to programs Microsoft would prefer that I use. So a little bit of customization, no big, done it a million times, one more won't hurt.

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There's a new update for Windows 11, KB5010414. I installed it, and it said I needed to reboot.

I rebooted, and when it was all fired up and ready to go it said it still needed to reboot to install the new update.

And I rebooted again, and after a few tries I uninstalled the new update and they can pound sand. My computer was going to tell me it needed to be rebooted for the next fifteen years or so, and rebooting was just making it cranky.

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That's runs parallel to my luck last Friday. I had to install the Java runtime environment on a WIN11 laptop to support a single customer's product series. Java installed, said it needed to reboot, click the okie dokie, and 30 seconds later my heart leapt out of my chest. The screen said BOOT SECTOR ERROR, PLEASE INSTALL OPERATING SYSTEM".

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Oh, that's lovely, bill_g. Back in the day, the error message was "No operating system detected".

I thought I had seen them all. Then I got this stupid ThinkPad and the error messages stopped. When you boot up, it says "Press enter to interrupt normal startup" and I've never done it. I have never even looked at the BIOS setup on this thing because it has always just worked perfectly. I've never had a computer that I didn't look under the hood before. It's coming up on three years old and instead of buying a new one I extended the warranty. This is the first thing that has ever happened with it that I couldn't just fix immediately.


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I have exactly 1 complaint about Windows 11 but it was the same in Windows 10 so I just grin and bear it.

Every time there is an update, it resets my "microphone" to low quality single channel.

My "microphone" is actually a USB input from a phono preamplifier and I need it to be DVD quality stereo.

And the setting to change it back is buried so deep I need a rotor rooter to find it.

(It does get a little easier if I use God Mode).

Also, too, I still can't find the controller app for the 5G nanobots that came with the vaccinations.


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I have no intention of installing Windows 11 on any of my machines. First I think I only have one PC new enough to run it because of the secure whatyamathing. Second I have heard it is actually worse on speed tests than Windows 10.

I have a really old (like 15 year old) Dell laptop that I put an SSD in a couple of years ago that I am going to try the new Chrome OS Flex on when I get back to Colorado in May. I have heard really good things about it and how well it runs on older laptops.


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keith wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:02 am I have exactly 1 complaint about Windows 11 but it was the same in Windows 10 so I just grin and bear it.

Every time there is an update, it resets my "microphone" to low quality single channel.

My "microphone" is actually a USB input from a phono preamplifier and I need it to be DVD quality stereo.

And the setting to change it back is buried so deep I need a rotor rooter to find it.

(It does get a little easier if I use God Mode).

Also, too, I still can't find the controller app for the 5G nanobots that came with the vaccinations.
Not a Windows guy but . . . I read something yesterday that the reset process may be more discoverable in a future release of Windows 11 as that is the case in a new Dev release in the Insider program. Wait a second now that I think a bit about this it may have been Speaker settings not mics. Sorry.


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Foggy wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:32 am Oh, that's lovely, bill_g. Back in the day, the error message was "No operating system detected".

I thought I had seen them all. Then I got this stupid ThinkPad and the error messages stopped. When you boot up, it says "Press enter to interrupt normal startup" and I've never done it. I have never even looked at the BIOS setup on this thing because it has always just worked perfectly. I've never had a computer that I didn't look under the hood before. It's coming up on three years old and instead of buying a new one I extended the warranty. This is the first thing that has ever happened with it that I couldn't just fix immediately.
If your computer is 3 years old, you may not be able to install Win11. It requires a certain kind of security thing (I'm not well-versed enough in computer tech to remember what it is), and it wasn't regularly installed on computers until Windows announced it was going to be necessary, IIUC. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware thing, and I know my husband had to get a new computer because his computer was too old to be able to upgrade (his motherboard was about 7 years old with other parts of varying ages.) You might look into that to see if that's the problem.


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Oh, I have Windows 11 on this laptop, three years old though it be. It came on Christmas Day, and I didn't even install it myself, it was auto-installed by Microsoft, but I like it.

I did spend a few bux for a thing that gives me exactly the Start menu I like, called Start11. I also use their Fences product, they're pretty good.

And my machine isn't nagging me to re-install the update I gave up on, so maybe they'll replace it with something that works.


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Kriselda Gray wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:16 am
Foggy wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:32 am Oh, that's lovely, bill_g. Back in the day, the error message was "No operating system detected".

I thought I had seen them all. Then I got this stupid ThinkPad and the error messages stopped. When you boot up, it says "Press enter to interrupt normal startup" and I've never done it. I have never even looked at the BIOS setup on this thing because it has always just worked perfectly. I've never had a computer that I didn't look under the hood before. It's coming up on three years old and instead of buying a new one I extended the warranty. This is the first thing that has ever happened with it that I couldn't just fix immediately.
If your computer is 3 years old, you may not be able to install Win11. It requires a certain kind of security thing (I'm not well-versed enough in computer tech to remember what it is), and it wasn't regularly installed on computers until Windows announced it was going to be necessary, IIUC. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware thing, and I know my husband had to get a new computer because his computer was too old to be able to upgrade (his motherboard was about 7 years old with other parts of varying ages.) You might look into that to see if that's the problem.
Im not at my desktop at the moment, and I cant remember the exact terms.

It used to be that this newly required security feature was a physical addon chip. Every motherboard supported the chip, but every manufacturer had their own chip. Nowadays the support is built in to the motherboard and enabled thru a BIOS setting.

The setting was required in Windows 10, so it isn't new, but it wasn't enforced until W11. This was to give manufacturers time to repopulate the worlds fleet of computers fairly naturally.

BUT, there also seems to be something in the CPU, as W11 wont run on older CPUs either. I suspect this isnt the same security issue, but maybe.

Somewhere in the technology thread I posted a note about how to enable the BIOS to make Win11 happy, but I'm not sure I was aware of the new CPU requirement then.


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