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I am cross posting this from the "what are you listening to" thread because I think it's a topic worthy of its own thread.

I stumbled across this podcast on Spotify and I am absolutely hooked.

The web page and the links to the podcast downloads
https://murdaughmurderspodcast.com

Start at the beginning.

I started to binge listen, but it is pretty intense and you definitely need to break it up a bit.

Right now, I'm up to episode 11.

This has everything. Lawyers, judges and police acting badly (and others doing the right thing)

Small town politics, regional state politics,

Insanity, (IMO) and murder of both the innocent and the guilty.

If anyone is interested or is following this, let me know when you get to episode 9.

I have some thoughts on that.

Episode 10 is one for the lawyers.
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Chilidog wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:55 pm I am cross posting this from the "what are you listening to" thread because I think it's a topic worthy of its own thread.

I stumbled across this podcast on Spotify and I am absolutely hooked.

The web page and the links to the podcast downloads
https://murdaughmurderspodcast.com

Start at the beginning.

I started to binge listen, but it is pretty intense and you definitely need to break it up a bit.

Right now, I'm up to episode 11.

This has everything. Lawyers, judges and police acting badly (and others doing the right thing)

Small town politics, regional state politics,

Insanity, (IMO) and murder of both the innocent and the guilty.

If anyone is interested or is following this, let me know when you get to episode 9.

I have some thoughts on that.

Episode 10 is one for the lawyers.
Chili - thanks for the recommendation — it’s a fascinating case. So many deaths; so much fraud; so much lawyer misconduct!

I’m up to episode 13. Curious to hear your thoughts on insanity. I’m not seeing it (not legal insanity, at any rate).
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Not legal insanity, but there does seem to be a streak of psychopath type behavior in the family. Not just on the Murdaugh side, but on the mother as well. In a later podcast, she is described as emotionally detached.

The son, Paul, was also a prone to violence when drunk.

In episode #9 when "Kevin" is talking about Steven Smith's death, he mentioned how the hunting lodge was used for parties where "people came down from Baltimore" and how there was lots of alcohol and drugs, my first thought was "have they had a team of cadaver sniffing dogs out at that property?" It's huge, 17,000 acres, but I would not be surprised if there weren't a few bodies buried back there.
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Not just lawyer misconduct, but police, judges, medical examiners, insurance adjusters, etc.

The good thing seems to be that things are finally getting dragged out into the open.

And for what it is worth, I like Mandy's voice. It the voice of a real human.
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Court TV is covering this too also. Lotsa money, lotsa defrauding law partners, lotsa defrauding clients. It's Klayman or Lin Wood with murder.
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Ah, right. Yeah, there seems to be a lot of mental illness in the family. It’s really interesting.

I’m interested to see whether there are other fraud victims besides the Satterfield heirs. And who killed his wife and kid? And was Gloria Satterfield murdered? Is Buster Murdaugh responsible for the death of Stephen Smith?

I want to know!!!
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Yeah, other than reading obits as a hobby, I've been a true crime fan since ... forever. I find many of the podcasts either too long or not really that good.

But this case! I caught the tail end of what I think was a 48 hrs. episode. This case does have everything and the corruption is staggering. Thanks for the recommendation Chili. I will start listening.
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Be prepared - the journalist has *serious* vocal fry. She complains in the first episode that it's mean to comment on it because that's just how her voice sounds, and she can't help it. That's not really true, though. With training you can learn to speak without vocal fry. She should find a voice coach.

And the reporting is kind of all over the place, but that's not really her fault -- there is *so much* going on in this story. For those trying to decide whether to jump in or not, here are the basic, basic, basic plot points (from memory, so forgive me if I leave something out or get a name or some other detail wrong).

Plot point 1:

Paul Murdaugh, the ne'er-do-well son of obscenely wealthy lawyer Alex Murdaugh goes out with five of his friends on a boat. They're all under age, but they manage to obtain alcohol at a couple of different places. They take the boat to an oyster fry because they heard that the cops have DUI checks on the road. They go to the oyster fry, and the rest of them want to head home, but Paul wants to (and does) stop at a waterside bar for more alcohol. When they're on the water again, Paul is driving the boat (GPS clocks it at over 24 mph), and they hit something. Everybody's tossed in the drink, everyone's injured, two seriously, and one woman is missing, her body was found five days later. The cops come, and bad investigating ensues. It's unclear whether the bad investigating is the result of corruption or incompetence, or some combination of the two. Paul is ultimately charged with 2 counts of felony DUI.

Lawsuits follow; the family of the woman who died sued everybody in sight, including the Murdaughs (Paul and Alex), the places that sold the alcohol to Paul, and the people who threw the oyster fry. One of the other kids on the boat sued the cops (I think it was the cops, but it might have been Paul or also Paul), for claiming that he was the one driving the boat when the accident happened.

Plot point 2:

Stephen Smith, an openly gay man, is found dead in the road. He died of blunt force trauma to the head. Autopsy revealed a dislocated shoulder and minor scratches, but no other injuries. Investigation revealed no evidence that Smith was hit by a car. The rumor mill started up, and lots of people told the cops that they heard that Buster Murdaugh, Paul's older brother, killed Smith. Some said he hit him with the side view mirror of his truck, other said he threw something at Smith.

Plot point 3:

Paul Murdaugh and his mother are both murdered at their hunting lodge (or camp - don't really know how developed this property is). One is shot with a shotgun, the other with a rifle. The journalist said one time in one episode (so far - I haven't listened to them all) that one of the murder weapons belonged to the Murdaugh family.

Plot point 4:

(I'm sorry - I can't remember when in time this incident happened in relation to the others - a lot of this stuff was going on at the same time, and it's all inter-related) Gloria Satterfield, the Murdaugh's housekeeper, died from a trip and fall (or possibly was murdered). Alex told her kids (one of whom was mentally incompetent) that he would take care of everything, that his lawyer would write up a demand letter for them to sign, which he would present to his insurance company, and they'd get $500,000. Originally one of Gloria's sons (the competent one) was personal representative. Alex told the son that because of the amount of money involved, they really should have a professional act as personal representative to the estate, and the son agreed. Alex put his guy in, and that guy, without getting any approval from the heirs, settled with the insurance company for 4-point-some-odd million dollars. The new PR gave the sons the $500K they were promised less his fees, he took another cut, and Alex got the rest.

Plot point 5:

Alex called 911 saying he'd been shot. Said he was on the side of the road fixing a flat, some white guy came up to him and offered to help, then shot him. Cops didn't believe that. Another guy (either came forward or was arrested - can't remember) said that Alex paid him to shoot him so Buster could get a $10M insurance payout, but he couldn't do it. I can't remember whether the other guy shot Alex or whether Alex shot himself, but it was just a superficial wound to the scalp. Alex called 911 and they sent an ambulance; at some point Alex ended up getting on a life flight, but it's unclear who hired the helo - the cops or Alex.

Where things stand now:

I'm not done yet; there are a few episodes I haven't listened to, and the story isn't anywhere near concluded. The guy who acted as PR for Gloria's sons has been disbarred, but he personally made good on all the money. It isn't clear where he got the money to do that. Alex has been indicted, charged with defrauding Gloria's sons, and also charged with attempted insurance fraud for the shot-in-the-head incident. I'm pretty sure there are other indictments, but I'm not there yet. Alex's law license has been suspended. The journalist is still looking for the money. Paul and his mother's murders are still unsolved; Stephen Smith's murder is still unsolved. Whether Gloria died by accident or by murder is still unknown.

I've probably left out a shit-ton of stuff, but TV writers couldn't have come up with a story this convoluted.
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I got through the first episode and had trouble understanding her. Then I heard her get all defensive at the beginning of episode 2 and she said some dumb stuff about it which hurts her credibility. Her fiancé has a nice voice maybe she should have let him do the talking!

I also thought this would be impossible to follow if I hadn’t done some reading about the case and of course the 48 Hours thing helped because of the visuals. I think this could have been organized despite the million moving parts. She *is*a print reporter FFS.

I will still listen to a few more episodes as I do my chores but boy oh boy!
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filly wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:01 pm I got through the first episode and had trouble understanding her. Then I heard her get all defensive at the beginning of episode 2 and she said some dumb stuff about it which hurts her credibility. Her fiancé has a nice voice maybe she should have let him do the talking!

I also thought this would be impossible to follow if I hadn’t done some reading about the case and of course the 48 Hours thing helped because of the visuals. I think this could have been organized despite the million moving parts. She *is*a print reporter FFS.

I will still listen to a few more episodes as I do my chores but boy oh boy!
The vocal fry gets less over time - I think she’s working on it. They also hired someone else toward the end who does not have vocal fry.
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OK.

Here is an interesting twist.

Alex Murdauch's lawyer at this time is a gentleman by the name of Dick Harpootlian.

Harpootlian is a powerful Democrat in SC state politics.

For his support in the last election, his wife, Jamie Harpootlian has been nominated to be the US Ambassador to Slovenia.
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More lawyer porn.


The latest podcast features a new attorney who is taking on the good old boy network, including the law firm, PMPED, of which Alex Murdaugh was a partner when he operated his insurance scams for a number of years.

He's a state rep, an attorney and a good looking guy.

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This should get interesting....

https://bamberglegal.com/

One of the issues of contention is that PMPED had the gall to deduct their legal fees when the offered to "make their clients whole" after one of their partners stole the settlement money from the clients (plural).... And the other partners didn't notice it for 5 years.
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Can you fix the spelling in the thread title please. I tried to post in it the other day and a search didn't find it.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:04 am Can you fix the spelling in the thread title please. I tried to post in it the other day and a search didn't find it.
Done.

Thanks for catching that.
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I’m still listening to this podcast. I think the story is very interesting. I am, however, a little put off by the narrators claim that on the one hand they are serious journalists, and their obvious bias on the other.

for example, in the latest who killed Stephen Smith Episode, she said something along the lines of, “we’re not saying that the Murdaugh family had anything to do with this murder. But their fingerprints are all over it.“ I’m sorry, but that’s not journalism.

So, if you’re looking for a podcast that is told from a particular point of view (that Alex Murdaugh and his family are murderers) then this one is pretty good. If you’re looking for a balanced story, this ain’t it.
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Court TV is monitoring this. One of the commentators opined about Murdaugh’s apparent addiction to money as opposed to being in debt to the mafia.
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More news

The CEO of a prominent South Carolina bank was fired on Friday as allegations came to light that he and others might have been involved in disgraced attorney Alex Murdaugh’s alleged schemes to defraud a deaf quadriplegic man and additional former clients out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/alex-murdaug ... tsE5mZkNyI
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Maybenaut wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:58 pm I’m still listening to this podcast. I think the story is very interesting. I am, however, a little put off by the narrators claim that on the one hand they are serious journalists, and their obvious bias on the other.

for example, in the latest who killed Stephen Smith Episode, she said something along the lines of, “we’re not saying that the Murdaugh family had anything to do with this murder. But their fingerprints are all over it.“ I’m sorry, but that’s not journalism.

So, if you’re looking for a podcast that is told from a particular point of view (that Alex Murdaugh and his family are murderers) then this one is pretty good. If you’re looking for a balanced story, this ain’t it.
I had to quit listening because the woman who is the alleged reporter brags about how she is the only journalist properly covering this, how hard she works and how tired she is from being a super hero. And the fiancé begging for money well it became too much. I was an early podcast listener and I listen to a big variety of podcasts. This is the most unprofessional and annoying one ever.
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January 21 additional indictments:
"South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson announced today that the South Carolina State Grand Jury issued four indictments consisting of 23 new charges against suspended attorney Richard Alexander Murdaugh. These new indictments charge Murdaugh with 19 counts of Breach of Trust with Fraudulent Intent and four counts of Computer Crimes.
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FYI I found a better podcast covering this mess on Spotify: Impact of Influence. It was also recorded chronologicallly but the hosts voices are clear and there is no whining, begging for $$ or chest beating. If anyone is interested this is far preferable (I haven't listened to the whole thing as there is much repetition).
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Her voice doesn't bother me, but the level of sponsorship, the constant patting oneself on the back, the disparagement of everyone else, and the whole support my fiancé, NO support MY fiancé thing just grates on me. I skip like the first 5 minutes and last 5-10 minutes of every episode. I'll have to try that one filly, it is a compelling story, thanks!
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A shirt worn by Alex Murdaugh on the night his wife and son were murdered was found to have a significant amount of high-velocity impact spatter on it from at least one of their bodies, sources familiar with the investigation recently told FITSNews.

The presence of this forensic evidence on his clothing “could have only come from one thing,” according to sources close to the investigation.

Specifically, the spatter indicates that Murdaugh was physically close to one or more of his family members when they were shot.
https://www.fitsnews.com/2022/04/26/hig ... kd9jG99Idk

Not surprised.
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I stopped listening to this at some point, I felt like I really wasn't getting the full story and couldn't be bothered to "do my own research" to validate or disprove that feeling, so I just gave up instead. Anyway, many, many, people haven't.
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Alex Murdaugh is one sick f**k. So saith Affirmant.
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https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/ ... ousekeeper
Murdaugh Family Mystery: Investigators To Exhume Body Of Former Housekeeper
Gloria Satterfield died after a fall at the home of her boss, Alex Murdaugh, who now admits he stole $4.3 million in insurance proceeds from her sons.


Family has granted investigators in South Carolina permission to exhume the body of Gloria Satterfield, the housekeeper who purportedly died from a fall at the home of Alex Murdaugh, the disgraced attorney who is a person of interest in his wife and son’s killings in 2021, authorities said.

Police initially believed Satterfield, 57, accidentally tripped over dogs and tumbled down a set of stairs while at Murdaugh’s home in February 2018. She later died from a stroke caused by the traumatic head injuries she suffered.

In September 2021, SLED launched a criminal investigation into the incident in the wake of Murdaugh’s ties to multiple investigations, including money laundering, the murders of his wife and son, and a botched suicide-for-hire plot, USA Today reported.

Murdaugh — Satterfield’s boss of over 20 years — was arrested at a Florida drug rehabilitation center last fall after authorities accused him of misappropriating insurance settlement funds that were meant to go to his late employee’s loved ones.
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