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As this great nation slides inexorably down, swirling into the abyss of anarchy or dick tater ship or sumpin', I shall document the downfall of civilization from my local perspective. Texoma and the North Fork are cool, but this is the state capital, and a beautiful suburban paradise, while it lasts.

The mighty Neuse River is only a couple hundred meters from my home. Rawly is one of the few, maybe the only, state capital that isn't a port or the navigable head of a river or sumpin'. Why is the state capital here? There was a tavern here, belonged to a guy named Isaac Hunter IIRC, and when we ratified the Constitution, we also too decided to put the capital in the center (roughly) of the state, and so they said the capital must be within 10 miles (16.1 kilometers) from that tavern and made the little village - if it was even that - into a big important city. I reckon so they could get a drink when they weren't legislating and stuff.

The city that grew from a tavern serving alcohol.

I love this place. :lovestruck:


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Moar! :biggrin:


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Moar, my love:

Rawly is in Wake County, and I have statistics for the county regarding COVID-19.

Population of Wake County: roughly 1,112,000 Earthlings (source )
Number of COVID-19 cases: 3,979 (source)

Percent with the virus: 3,979 ÷ 1,112,000 = .0036 also known as A Third of One Percent

And we've had a total of 912 deaths, in two years, in a county with over a million people. So like I've said, we have the thing mostly under control, while other states are really getting hit.

So we got that going for us. :whistle:


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Foggy wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:00 am
Rawly is one of the few, maybe the only, state capital that isn't a port or the navigable head of a river or sumpin'.
Atlanta. Once known as Terminus.


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Harrisburg. Just on a river, the Susquehanna.


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Columbus Ohio centrally located not sure the crick is navigable though.


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Foggy wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:00 am There was a tavern here, belonged to a guy named Isaac Hunter IIRC,
Hunter?
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qbawl wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:11 pm Columbus Ohio centrally located not sure the crick is navigable though.
That place there that calls itself a school really reduces the usefulness of that town.


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Atlanta was indeed chosen by its geographic location, and the name Terminus described that - instead of the navigable head of a river, it's the southern endpoint of the Appalachian Mountains. Thus, it became the Terminus of the railroads that were being built across this great land of ours at the time. The path of the railroad is dictated by the geography, and Atlanta grew from that.

'Course, Rawly was picked because it was in roughly the center of the state, but it had no geographical reason for its existence beyond "middle of the state," is what I meant.

There's still a bar downtown called Isaac Hunter's Tavern. Kind of a yuppie joint, I don't go to the bars anymore or I could give ya my report. :shrug:


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I don't know if the creeks in Springfield, IL are all that navigable.


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Columbus was chosen as the site for the new capital because of its central location within the state and access to transportation routes (primarily rivers) at that time. source

So there were already transportation routes, unlike Rawly. However, it's similar in that there was no city there until it was chosen as the state capital. Interesting. :think:


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I was under the impression until just about a week ago that most states had their capitols centrally located in the state. I looked at a map of the US and was surprised to find that it's about half and half, maybe 60/40 centrally located as opposed to not. Even Harrisburg isn't quite as central as I thought. I knew places like Cheyenne and Tallahassee were definitely not, but I was surprised to see how many more there were. A lot of them that are more or less central are in the East, it seemed.


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northland10 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:21 pm I don't know if the creeks in Springfield, IL are all that navigable.
Ah, but Springfield was already a city long before they made it the state capital in 1839, largely because of Abraham Lincoln and his homies. It was a city because of its geographical features - a valley and plain close to the Sangamon River, which inspired European settlers to choose it as a good location for a community.


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AndyinPA wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:29 pm I was under the impression until just about a week ago that most states had their capitols centrally located in the state. I looked at a map of the US and was surprised to find that it's about half and half, maybe 60/40 centrally located as opposed to not. Even Harrisburg isn't quite as central as I thought. I knew places like Cheyenne and Tallahassee were definitely not, but I was surprised to see how many more there were. A lot of them that are more or less central are in the East, it seemed.
I think "centrally" would mean as seen in the olden times, central to where most were living at the time, not considering the outback where development was still to take place.


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Weird area, for sure. Throw in the whole of the Triangle (Rawly, Durhamed, Chapel Socialism) there's a tad bit over 2 million folks in the counties of Wake, Durham and Orange.

There's 10 colleges (3 prominent money-making sportsball schools) and the Research Triangle Park (a massive location for computer and biotech innovation).

The public transportation system can be described as anemic, if you're being polite. There is no actual development plan so new housing/businesses are laid out in the model of Atlanta Sprawl, with less thought put into the situation. Trips of 15 miles normally take 20-30 minutes.

An hour outside of the three triangle apexes, it's almost 1960. 2 hours above the statehouse, it's not safe to go into the woods as cosplaying proud-boy types are in charge and do shot and quietly bury. The reichstag holders dislike poor people and consistently vote to cut support for humans at every opportunity provided. Probably not too different than other places, local county/town governments are a mix of religious fucktards married to trump humpers.

I'm here because of the job, but with incoming Apple and other "high salary" tech jobs, the housing market is approaching the idiocy of San Francisco/Silicone Valley without the benefit of an ocean-side address.

It's getting unsustainable.


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Probably true on all counts, but we have no plan to return to SoCal any time soon.

If anything, we might move somewhat closer to the beach, always remembering that we don't want our boys to inherit real estate that is permanently below sea level.

For good stuff to do in this burg, visit Secret Raleigh. The youths are revolting.
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Perfect Xmas gift. Y'all will love it!!!!


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Foggy wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:49 am
Edit: (I shortened the title for Maybenaut)
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We also didn’t want real estate that would be permanently below sea level. Well, to be fair, I did, but my husband put his foot down. I said, fine, then I want a really good view - not some crappy seasonal view or a view that you can only see if you’re standing on the edge of the tub looking out the bathroom window. Well, we got that.

Our town of Luray is kind of small (around 5K), but I found a new music tribe down in Harrisonburg, VA (30 minutes away), so I’ve been spending a lot of time down there. Home to James Madison University (Go Dukes!), Harrisonburg has about 50,000 people. It has a nice urban core that’s lively at night, but it’s getting some sprawl along the edges.

People down there are like, wow, you drove all the way from Luray?! And I’m like, I can’t believe this awesome town is only 30 minutes from where I live!


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Foggy wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:26 am Immersive Van Gogh:
Have you ever dreamt of stepping into a painting? Take an awe-inspiring journey into the incomparable universe of Van Gogh, one of the greatest artistic geniuses of the 19th century. Explore his life, his work, and his secrets as never before through cutting-edge 360 degree digital projections, a one-of-a-kind VR experience, and a uniquely atmospheric light and sound show. This unique experience brought to you by Exhibition Hub has already thrilled 2 million visitors in the USA, in New York, Atlanta, Washington DC, and Boston, among others. Become completely immersed in the works of art around you, and feel the shift in reality as you dive deep into the world created by Van Gogh's brush strokes.
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Download the app Lighthouse Immersive before you go, and take earphones if you are interested in following along. I downloaded it when they told me about it as we entered. We watched it through three times, so I wouldn't have listened more than once, but I think it would have been good to have followed it. It was nice to look at after the fact but would have been better ahead of time.


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I will do that, Andy, and thanks. They haven't even disclosed the location yet. :shock:


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I request a lot of material from University of Carolina at Chapel Hill through interlibrary loan for our library users.

Wrap an interlibrary loan bookband around you and the fambly and come visit the frozen north. We have beaches :batting: :batting:


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Yeah, you don't fool me none. Beaches on frozen lakes! :roll:


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RTH10260 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:18 pm
AndyinPA wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:29 pm I was under the impression until just about a week ago that most states had their capitols centrally located in the state. I looked at a map of the US and was surprised to find that it's about half and half, maybe 60/40 centrally located as opposed to not. Even Harrisburg isn't quite as central as I thought. I knew places like Cheyenne and Tallahassee were definitely not, but I was surprised to see how many more there were. A lot of them that are more or less central are in the East, it seemed.
I think "centrally" would mean as seen in the olden times, central to where most were living at the time, not considering the outback where development was still to take place.
Albany, NY, might be an example of that. The western part of New York was for years the "frontier."


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Yes, thanks Andy! I’ll use that link too. Have tickets for TIVG on Christmas Eve afternoon in LA - can’t wait!


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