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I wonder if AG Josh Shapiro can go after Oz for this. :?:
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AndyinPA wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 3:11 pm I wonder if AG Josh Shapiro can go after Oz for this. :?:
Is what he did illegal? My daughter in Brazil votes in all the state and federal elections in the US.
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Yabbut your daughter isn’t running for office in Brazil.
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Well there goes the Armenian American votes.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 3:18 pm
AndyinPA wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 3:11 pm I wonder if AG Josh Shapiro can go after Oz for this. :?:
Is what he did illegal? My daughter in Brazil votes in all the state and federal elections in the US.
No, not illegal. Two issues: 1) A major turn off for voters. Can only speak for the northeast, but not voting / voting in another country has traditionally been a deal breaker for candidates. 2) National security. Twitter says he will not pass a security vetting as someone who is not only a citizen of another country, but someone who votes in another country.
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p0rtia wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 4:31 pm
sugar magnolia wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 3:18 pm
AndyinPA wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 3:11 pm I wonder if AG Josh Shapiro can go after Oz for this. :?:
Is what he did illegal? My daughter in Brazil votes in all the state and federal elections in the US.
No, not illegal. Two issues: 1) A major turn off for voters. Can only speak for the northeast, but not voting / voting in another country has traditionally been a deal breaker for candidates. 2) National security. Twitter says he will not pass a security vetting as someone who is not only a citizen of another country, but someone who votes in another country.
I understand the optics but was curious what the AG had to do with it.
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p0rtia wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 4:31 pmTwitter says he will not pass a security vetting as someone who is not only a citizen of another country, but someone who votes in another country.
Members of Congress do not require, nor do they receive, a security clearance.
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bob wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 6:47 pm
p0rtia wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 4:31 pmTwitter says he will not pass a security vetting as someone who is not only a citizen of another country, but someone who votes in another country.
Members of Congress do not require, nor do they receive, a security clearance.
I think the implication was that he would not be able to receive security briefings from Intel Agencies. I'll see if I can find the reference!
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From the ABC article posted on the previous page:
Elected officials are not subjected to the same level of scrutiny as civilians who seek security clearances for sensitive government work; once sworn-in, lawmakers are granted access to classified information, unless the executive branch denies them certain information.

But the background check process for civilians can also "provide a framework for analyzing whether someone is trustworthy or not," according to Kel McClanahan, the executive director of National Security Counselors, a nonprofit public interest law firm. And for McClanahan, voting in another country's election would set off a "giant, flashing red light."
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It sounds like Dr. Oz is not going to get a good reception at the upcoming Klan Trump rally.
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This was the tweet I saw. I got nothing else.

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At the very least, wouldn't it limit the committees he could serve on?
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AndyinPA wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 7:28 pm At the very least, wouldn't it limit the committees he could serve on?
The way I understand it, he would automatically gain access to classified material as a CongressCritter once sworn in unless the Executive branch blocked it. But I dunno.
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For the rally tomorrow, the weather is supposed to be atrocious. I've been there a number of times. It's on top of a hill, very exposed to lightning, with little inside, covered space. There are barn buildings, but none of them are huge, and they are scattered around.
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AndyinPA wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 7:28 pm At the very least, wouldn't it limit the committees he could serve on?
Not necessarily; committee assignments are per party leadership, and leadership may want him on a particular committee, notwithstanding (or because of) the publicity it'll create.

The executive branch can always withhold information. It could even create a neutral-sounding rule (e.g., "access to this information is limited to those with security clearances") that is, in actuality, meant to block only one person's access.

But, again, voting in a foreign election does not automatically prevent anything for federal elected officials; at best, it may create pause with those who hold sensitive information.
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I’m reading a lot on right-wing social media that Mehmet Oz is going to be booed at the Trump rally tomorrow, and the crowd intends to show Trump how unhappy they are with the endorsement by booing when he mentions Oz’s name.
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:dance: now that would be fun...

I hope they do.. and I hope there will be video of Donnie's face as it happens.
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AndyinPA wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 7:43 pm For the rally tomorrow, the weather is supposed to be atrocious. I've been there a number of times. It's on top of a hill, very exposed to lightning, with little inside, covered space. There are barn buildings, but none of them are huge, and they are scattered around.
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On the day of Trump’s rally in PA to support Mehmet Oz, Mike Pompeo is holding a presser to say that Oz poses a threat to national security.
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Well, Pompeo certainly knows about being a national security risk...
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tfg can't rally in the rain, the muskrat on his head will get muffed.
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It's supposed to rain through tomorrow. It's been rainy and gloomy all day here. It will be a muddy mess there tonight.
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AndyinPA wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 5:09 pm It's supposed to rain through tomorrow. It's been rainy and gloomy all day here. It will be a muddy mess there tonight.
Looks delightful already.
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The RWNJ accounts are all posting unflattering (to other RWNJs) videos of Oz (support for Roe, support for masking, etc.) in advance of his appearance. If it happens. Anyway, I doubt it will be pretty between the tfg True Believers of everything he says and those that differ on OZ. Should be a rollicking fun good time!
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Word is that the crowd is pretty sparse and rather wet.
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 6:47 pm Word is that the crowd is pretty sparse and rather wet.
Population of the county is close to 355,000. It has been losing population since the 1990s. These folks think tfg loves and understands them. I suspect he’s not welcome in many places but knows he’s welcome here. It will be the usual self-pity fest. Maybe they relate.
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