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Post by Addie » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:45 am

Batting a thousand this week, Joe. :cantlook:

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Biden Says Marijuana Might Be A Gateway Drug

Former Vice President Joe Biden (D) said on Saturday that he’s not sure if marijuana is a gateway drug that leads to the use of other, more dangerous substances.

“The truth of the matter is, there’s not nearly been enough evidence that has been acquired as to whether or not it is a gateway drug,” the 2020 presidential candidate claimed at a town hall meeting in Las Vegas. “It’s a debate, and I want a lot more before I legalize it nationally. I want to make sure we know a lot more about the science behind it.”

That said, Biden added that while he doesn’t personally support ending cannabis prohibition, “states should be able to make a judgement to legalize marijuana.” “I think that’s OK,” he said.

Biden, who in past years has clearly said he thinks cannabis is a gateway drug and has a long record of supporting legislation to ramp up the war on drugs, was answering a voter’s question about whether his position on marijuana has changed.



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Post by Orlylicious » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:34 pm

It is making me nuts how many errors mainstream reporting has. They should have a link to report typos on every page. Seriously, Forbes also spelled it "judgement"? It's up to almost 50% wrong in what I read. Stop it!! :thor: OK better now. Backing up from the lectern and getting off the podium.
That said, Biden added that while he doesn’t personally support ending cannabis prohibition, “states should be able to make a judgement to legalize marijuana.”
I'm amazed at that position, it's going to be really unhelpful, surprising since he was early to gay marriage and other social issues. Shows there's still a generational divide, but that generation needs to make way. I love Joe Biden, but my constant concern is that like, unfortunately (and not all her fault), HRC, he doesn't excite the passion we need to go up against an idiot who at the end of the day is an entertainer/game show host. I know it's not happening, but if Oprah had gone for it, she would have kicked his ass. Watching Pete carefully and we're in the Obama lane of not building expectations too high. We also think the parties can (must) work together... the logjam now has been Donald and MoscowMitch. Just as many (more) red staters need healthcare and other social safety nets, there's always been common ground found ultimately for successful (and lasting) programs. No rose colored glasses, but there are truly parts of issues each side can agree on and believe we should always try to start there.


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Post by Sunrise » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:46 pm

Orlylicious wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:34 pm
Just as many (more) red staters need healthcare and other social safety nets, there's always been common ground found ultimately for successful (and lasting) programs. No rose colored glasses, but there are truly parts of issues each side can agree on and believe we should always try to start there.
Oh how I long for the days when Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neill could actually work together and accomplish things. Will we ever see relationships like that again? :daydream:


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:59 pm

Most of the things they accomplished together were shitty for progressives. I long for the Great Society. Minus the Vietnam War.



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Post by Addie » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:44 am

You and me, both :daydream:
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“The truth of the matter is, there’s not nearly been enough evidence that has been acquired as to whether or not it is a gateway drug,” the 2020 presidential candidate claimed at a town hall meeting in Las Vegas. “It’s a debate, and I want a lot more before I legalize it nationally. I want to make sure we know a lot more about the science behind it.”
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Post by RoadScholar » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:23 am

The very idea of a “Gateway Drug” is nonsense.

There is no gate, no fence to put it in. Anyone who wants to use any drug can. It’s easy.

Millions of people smoke grass and never do heroin. Some teenagers go directly to opiates by stealing grandma’s oxycontins. Some folks wreck their lives with nothing but alcohol.

Nonsense, plain and simple. Great way to proclaim being old and behind the times, Joe.


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Post by Foggy » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:22 am

Yeah, good to know that the supposed front-runner for the Democratic Party nomination is a moron still stuck in the 1960s. Am I really going to have to hold my nose and vote for this geriatric lightweight?


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Post by p0rtia » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:11 am

Yes, Foggy, you will. And I will be right there next to you.

Preferably stoned.


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Post by MsDaisy » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:20 am

Foggy wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:22 am
Yeah, good to know that the supposed front-runner for the Democratic Party nomination is a moron still stuck in the 1960s. Am I really going to have to hold my nose and vote for this geriatric lightweight?
I don't think you'll have to hold your nose to vote Foggy, all prior gaffs aside that brain fart could have just lost him the nomination.


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Post by Foggy » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:34 am

Well I should hope so, MsDaisy. He just lost the youth vote, that's for certain.

I hope someone tells him the Berlin Wall came down a while ago, and the Soviet Union fell apart.

Those would be good things to know. :idea:

Honest to doG, if he's the nominee I'll vote for him but I won't campaign for him. And when the local Democratic Party calls to find out why this year of all years I'm not out ringing a thousand doorbells for the Democrat, I'm just going to say "gateway drug". :doh:


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Post by voxpopuluxe » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:54 am

Foggy wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:34 am
And when the local Democratic Party calls to find out why this year of all years I'm not out ringing a thousand doorbells for the Democrat, I'm just going to say "gateway drug." ...
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Post by RoadScholar » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:50 am

Plus, Biden just said he may not serve two terms if elected.

Great. Meaning Dems would have to find a whole 'nother candidate to run after Joe, from scratch. :roll:


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Post by tek » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:04 am

Joe, with all due respect: Sit down.
Your heart just isn't in it, and your brain isn't helping.


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Post by Hurtzi » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:20 am

Joe Biden’s Family Has Been Cashing in on His Career for Decades. Democrats Need to Acknowledge That.
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October 9 2019, 1:00 p.m.

https://theintercept.com/2019/10/09/joe ... ily-money/


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Post by Slim Cognito » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:28 am

voxpopuluxe wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:54 am
Foggy wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:34 am
And when the local Democratic Party calls to find out why this year of all years I'm not out ringing a thousand doorbells for the Democrat, I'm just going to say "gateway drug." ...
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Hurtzi wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:20 am
Joe Biden’s Family Has Been Cashing in on His Career for Decades. Democrats Need to Acknowledge That.
Ryan Grim

October 9 2019, 1:00 p.m.

https://theintercept.com/2019/10/09/joe ... ily-money/
"Acknowledge" is carrying a lot of weight in that sentence. I'd argue that this is really bad advice to the Dems.

Nepotism is rampant in politics, yes? It comes in shady-but-legal, unethical, and illegal forms, yes?

I can't see where bringing up the subject by just talking about Biden is a good idea on any planet.

The author gives the following recommendation against bringing up the subject in general.
"In defending the Biden’s nepotistic relationship, Democrats would be forced to argue that, to be fair, such soft corruption is common among the families of senior-level politicians. But that’s a risky general-election argument in a political moment when voters are no longer willing to accept business-as-usual."
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I would argue that ANY talk of the Biden family getting a career boost because of their last name should ONLY be discussed in a broader context--starting with Hunter's admission that it's true and that he regrets it, a willingness to pass laws to prevent it, then turning on a dime to what is going on in the White House in 2019 and how out-of-historical-proportion gross it is.

It sickens me these days when any Dem is asked to "come clean" in this way. This scrutiny and focuses in on a flaw and then blows it up without context.

If people don't want to vote for Joe because, nepotism, fine. Don't want to hear that they've gone to another candidate whose kids have also benefited, though. Oh, and also, because, white privilege? Fine. Because, male privilege? Fine.

But "acknowledging" this as a necessary gambit? Could you be more petty? Can't stand the war on entitlement being cherry-picked like this. Got more and bigger going on.


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Post by Jeffrey » Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:13 pm

I think the average voter knows what’s up already, it doesn’t need acknowledgement.

https://ballotpedia.org/Changes_in_Net_ ... ain_Index)

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Biden’s senior Latina adviser quits in frustration

Cárdenas’ departure is the latest in a string of troubles Biden’s campaign has had with Latino and Hispanic leaders and groups.


A senior Joe Biden campaign staffer in charge of outreach to Latino, African-American and women’s groups has quit her post, telling two allies she was frustrated over her lack of input and with the presidential candidate’s immigration rhetoric.

Vanessa Cárdenas, the most senior Latina Biden staffer, had been serving as national coalitions director since the campaign formally announced its existence April 25. She resigned last week and has since changed her bio on Twitter to say she was “formerly with @joebiden.”

Cárdenas did not return a call or text message, but two friends familiar with her thinking told POLITICO that she felt the campaign wasn’t heeding her advice on immigration as she tried to reach out to Latino groups that have had longstanding concerns with the former vice president’s rhetoric and record stemming from the Obama administration.

“The campaign is just hyper-focused on whites in Iowa and African-Americans and it placed less value on Latino outreach,” an immigration activist and friend who spoke with her told POLITICO.



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After report of aide quitting, Biden says Latinos a priority

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Joe Biden said Monday that he's making outreach to Latinos a priority in his Democratic presidential campaign after a news report that his most senior Latina staffer had resigned out of frustration.

Biden told reporters on a phone call that he's spent a lot of time in Florida, California and even Iowa talking to Latinos and has no shortage of concern for or interest in Latinos.

The former vice president was responding to a report in Politico that his most senior Latina staffer, who served as national coalitions director, had quit. The report says Vanessa Cárdenas raised concerns that the campaign focused too much on white voters in Iowa and black voters at the expense of Latino voters.

Cardenas could not be reached for comment.



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Post by tencats » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:32 am

How Biden helped create the student debt problem he now promises to fix
Mon 2 Dec 2019 04.00 EST
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... 5-act-2020
Until 2005, private student loans were eligible for bankruptcy protections just like other forms of private credit. But in that year Congress passed the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act, a law that made it vastly more difficult for struggling former students to rebuild their lives by discharging the debts and starting over.

Earlier this year, Biden tried to justify his backing of the 2005 act. His campaign spokesman told Politico that “knowing that the bill was likely to make it through the Republican-led Congress, he worked to moderate the bankruptcy bill and protect middle class families. He believed that if you have income and consumer debts you can pay, you should agree to a repayment plan that you can afford.”
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Despite his protestations, it is indisputable that Biden was an avid supporter of the 2005 bill as a whole and of its overall thrust of tightening up the bankruptcy code largely to the benefit of lenders at the expense of distressed families who would find it harder to file for bankruptcy.

“Biden was one of the most powerful people who could have said no, who could have changed this. Instead he used his leadership role to limit the ability of other Democrats who had concerns and who wanted the bill softened,” said Melissa Jacoby, a law professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill specialising in bankruptcy.

Other leading Democrats and consumer advocates did say no.

Read more at https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... 5-act-2020[


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The Hill: Trump campaign steps up attacks on Biden
Mother Jones: House of Cards

How Joe Biden helped build a financial system that’s great for Delaware banks and terrible for the rest of us.



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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:03 pm

Better get used to it. Unless Uncle Joe strokes out, he's going to be the nominee. He's Teflon Joe.

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Post by Addie » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:36 pm

Politico
Biden says he’ll consider Harris as his running mate

AMES, Iowa — A day after Kamala Harris dropped out of the presidential race, Joe Biden said on Wednesday he would consider the California senator as a running mate and said he had no “hard feelings” against his now-former opponent.

“Senator Harris has the capacity to be anything she wants to be,” Biden told reporters here in Ames. “I talked to her yesterday. She’s solid. She can be the president one day herself. She can be the vice president. She can go on to be a Supreme Court justice.”

Biden’s kind words for Harris, who torched him during a June debate over his record on busing, marked the second day in which he commended her. On Tuesday, when Harris withdrew from the race, Biden made sure to praise her at the time but didn’t say whether he might pick her as a running mate.



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Axios
Joe Biden unveils $3.2 trillion tax plan

2020 candidate Joe Biden on Wednesday unveiled a plan to raise $3.2 trillion over a decade from tax increases in order to pay for his climate and health care proposals, Bloomberg reports.

Why it matters: Biden's plan demonstrates the political divide within the Democratic Party. His plan is markedly different from the aggressive tax measures pitched by Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, who want to raise around $20 trillion in new taxes over the next decade.

Details: Biden's plan would bump corporate taxes from 21% to 28% — still well below the 35% corporations were paying before Republican's 2017 tax cut. His campaign estimates that this would produce $730 billion in tax revenue over a decade.
It would also raise an estimated $800 billion over a decade from taxing capital gains as ordinary income for taxpayers with more than $1 million in income.

The plan also caps tax breaks for the wealthy at 28%, which he says would collect an estimated $310 billion in 10 years. It includes $400 billion in tax revenue from a 15% minimum corporate tax on companies that report a net income of more than $100 million.



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