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Uninformed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:31 pm The OSG tends to only make broad unverifiable accusations, or avoids any challenge to a statement that can be proven wrong (the few times he has put on the spot were not pretty and if possible he walked out). I believe even the OSG knew, or those around him convinced him, that Lindell had committed the error of saying he would prove his non-existent case followed by the foreseeable disastrous result when he attempted to do so. Mike really must learn to make more unspecific, nebulous, accusations.

much ado wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:18 pm

Uninformed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:31 pm The OSG tends to only make broad unverifiable accusations, or avoids any challenge to a statement that can be proven wrong (the few times he has put on the spot were not pretty and if possible he walked out). I believe even the OSG knew, or those around him convinced him, that Lindell had committed the error of saying he would prove his non-existent case followed by the foreseeable disastrous result when he attempted to do so. Mike really must learn to make more unspecific, nebulous, accusations.

Yeah, there's a whole chapter on that issue in "Grifting for Dummies".

Kurt Olsen, a lawyer on Mr. Lindell’s team said there were multiple sources of the data that Mr. Lindell claims to have, and did not confirm that Mr. Mongtomery was the source of the data. He also clarified that the $5 million challenge has not been canceled and that Mr. ["Spyder"] Merritt would not be privy to that information.

Clarification: The article previously described Mr. Merritt as Lindell’s lead cyber expert. Mr. Merritt is a cyber expert on the red team hired by Mr. Lindell to interrogate the data for the symposium, and does not work directly for Mr. Lindell.

In the clip below, he notices Conradson, quickly closes his laptop, then stands up and begins speaking to Conradson.

“Reporter”: Are you reporting something here?

Conradson: Yeah. Are you?

“Reporter”: No I’m not.

Conradson: What are you reporting?

“Reporter”: I just said I’m not reporting anything

Conradson: What are you doing here?

“Reporter”: My job.

Conradson: Are you not a reporter?

“Reporter”: You’re with The Gateway Pundit arent you?

Conradson: Are you not a reporter?

“Reporter”: Aren’t you like 19? Aren’t you still in high school?

GConradson: Good one dude. What about you, you lie to the people. why do you do that?

“Reporter”: *chuckles nervously and adjusts mask*

Conradson: your company calls us conspiracy theorists. what are you doing here?

“Reporter”: You guys are conspiracy theorists.

Conradson: No. Your Company calls us conspiracy theorists. What are you doing here? Are you here to make fun of us?

“Reporter”: Dude, you guys fall for like fake ANIFA hoaxes all the time. Let Jim know I said hi.

northland10 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:31 pm Is he building a case for the court to show that he is not a reasonable person?

Mike Lindell promised Dominion voting machines — but he doesn't have any
Purported voting machine in Lindell-apalooza "mock precinct" demo was actually a high-end Canon document scanner

Going back at least as far as May, Lindell has repeatedly promised to show off his voting machines at his South Dakota gathering, assuring Salon that he had "multiple" such devices in his possession, and they would somehow prove that the 2020 election had been stolen from Donald Trump. "We got the machines, Dominion!" Lindell proudly declared in May, adding that he looked forward to cracking them open. "We got all these machines!"

In July, the pillow king again told Salon, "We've had machines for, I don't know, months now. You realize you can buy them on eBay, right?" Lindell additionally promised the voting machines "absolutely" would be present at his Sioux Falls event this past week. Yet over the course of the three-day "symposium," no voting machines made by Dominion, Smartmatic, ES&S or any other company ever appeared. Instead, Lindell aides used an ordinary commercial scanner — a readily available office machine — to demonstrate how an alleged hack originating from "China" could hypothetically have occurred.

Lindell's event space in Sioux Falls included an amateurish set described as the "mock election" area or replica voting precinct. This featured early 2000s technology that was nothing like official voting machinery of any kind. The larger device in the tableau, which superficially resembled a voting machine, was, in fact, a high-end Canon "production document scanner," model number DR-G1130, which ordinarily retails for around $5,000. This particular machine had a sticker indicating that it formerly belonged to a local government.

Members of the media were not allowed to enter the breakout rooms dedicated to hosting "cyber experts." Two such experts told Salon that not only were there no voting machines at the South Dakota event, there were no "packet captures" either. (Another supposed element of "absolute proof" Lindell has long promised.) "We didn't see voting machines," said Robert Graham, a packet capture expert with more than 25 years of experience who was at the event, told Salon. As for the mock voting machines on display, Graham noted, "they weren't real." When asked why no voting machines were present here after months of promises, Lindell wished this reporter, "Goodbye Zach. I am praying you get saved."

bob wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:34 pm* It is the flip side of the argument, "I didn't intend to commit tax crimes because I was relying on the advice of counsel." Relying on the advice of a professional often is reasonable, while relying on the advice of scammers often is unreasonable.

Mike Lindell promised Dominion voting machines — but he doesn't have any

You realize you can buy them on eBay, right?"

Purported voting machine in Lindell-apalooza "mock precinct" demo was actually a high-end Canon document scanner

bob wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:23 pm "For completeness": Salon: Mike Lindell promised Dominion voting machines — but he doesn't have any:

Purported voting machine in Lindell-apalooza "mock precinct" demo was actually a high-end Canon document scanner

At this point, I'm willing to believe there's a mini-Montgomery afoot, i.e., some other grifter bought a used copier and then sold it to Lindell (at a huge markup) while claiming it was a voting machine.

filly wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:32 pmWhat is your considered opinion of how much money Lindell has left when all of the dust settles, as when Dominion's lawyers get done with him and his *own* lawyers get done with him? Include money lost to scammers and grifters (those not licensed to practice law) too. And his own lost sales.

bob wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:07 pm

filly wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:32 pmWhat is your considered opinion of how much money Lindell has left when all of the dust settles, as when Dominion's lawyers get done with him and his *own* lawyers get done with him? Include money lost to scammers and grifters (those not licensed to practice law) too. And his own lost sales.

I don't feel qualified to have my opinion be "considered," but my WAG is a seven-digit figure. (Thanks to white-to-gray asset-sheltering mechanisms.)

Mike Lindell shares details of alleged "attack" during cyber symposium photo-op
A fan squeezed Lindell's armpit during a photo-op — was he the victim of a "martial arts" pressure-point attack?
By BRETT BACHMAN PUBLISHED AUGUST 14, 2021 1:36PM (EDT)

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell appeared visibly shaken on Thursday as he discussed a physical "attack" he suffered during this week's "cyber symposium," the event at which he promised to share irrefutable evidence of industrial-scale voter fraud that would propel former President Donald Trump back into office. "When I got to my hotel, I... I was attacked," Lindell said during an on-stage speech at the symposium, his voice audibly shaking. He immediately turned things over to one of his security professionals to outline how the event's "red team" had discovered agitators within the facility — but Salon was unable to find any evidence of those allegations.

Though "reinstatement day" has now come and gone without any evidence to prove the widespread election tampering Lindell alleges, the pillow maven is now claiming that the assault he referenced on stage involved a fan squeezing his armpit just a little too hard while posing for a picture — a detail which has led a number of right-wing sites to speculate that the outspoken Trump supporter was the subject of a "martial-arts" style pressure-point attack. According to an interview Lindell gave to right-wing blog "100 Percent Fed Up" Friday, the incident happened at the Sheraton hotel in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, late Wednesday night. While posing for photos with fans, Lindell claims he was approached by a "tall" and "very strong" man in his late 20s, who pulled him in close for the shot. Apparently the man grabbed Lindell under the armpit and squeezed, leaving him in "excruciating" and "intense" pain. Though Lindell admitted to the site that he didn't visibly react, it was only because he didn't want to give his assailants "the satisfaction" of seeing him hurt: Mike didn't want to give either of the men the satisfaction of knowing how badly he was being hurt, so he continued to stand and smile for the camera without flinching. "He either wanted me to react or to fight him," Mike said.

When Mike got to his room, he checked to see if his skin had been penetrated by a needle or any other device and called the police to report the incident. Unfortunately, all three men had disappeared from the lobby by the time the police arrived to take their report. The police also checked under Mike's arm for any obvious injuries. 100 Percent Fed Up went so far as to suggest the "attack" was an attempt to disable Lindell through a pressure-point attack on a grouping of nerves which run through the armpit, called the subaxillary bundle — or even a play to sever his brachial artery, a major circulatory route that, if damaged or severed, can prove fatal. The site reported that Lindell said he'll "never forget the evil face of the man taking the photo."

When reached for comment Saturday on the incident, Lindell suggested that "people from Salon might be involved" in the attack and that he was forwarding this reporter's name to investigators. "You are evil!" he added. The incident was just the latest roadblock for Lindell in his quest to overturn the 2020 election results — throughout the "cyber symposium" he failed to produce long-promised physical voting machines and data "packet captures" that he said would show widespread vote tampering, while blaming antifa for the repeated failures.