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Lani wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:08 am A major part of the cruelty of an execution is the preparation rituals for it. The final meal, the final walk, the chair, strapping the person in, attaching the cords, etc. Or being strapped to a gurney and having various medical devices attached. If it was more like letting go of our beloved pets, the death would happen quickly.

Liz wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:08 pm Instead of electric chair/firing squad give the condemned the choice of Heroin/Morphine/Fentanyl?
Plenty available in evidence rooms and about 30K/yr like it so much they use too much.... and seemingly pass without knowing.

zekeb wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:09 pm The guillotine is quicker and more painless than the firing squad. Once built, it's the ultimate in a green way to execute people. Why didn't the S.C. Legislature choose this humane and cost-effective method?

Uninformed wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 8:19 am Something that crossed my mind (a short trip) is that if you believe in heaven and hell, execution is the quickest way to deliver you to your eternal punishment. I wonder if this colours the thinking of (supposedly) religious people?

On occasion crimes are so horrendous that I feel the perpetrator(s) “forfeit the right to life”, but as is known 100% absolutely certain convictions have been found to be wrong.

LM K wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 7:40 pm Here's the thing. There is evidence that people maintain some consciousness after being decapitated. It looks like a fast death, but that's because there is no body to show signs of consciousness.

When Jean-Paul Marat’s killer, Charlotte Corday, was executed by guillotine in 1793, a man named Francois le Gros allegedly lifted her head and slapped both cheeks. Onlookers claimed that Corday’s face took on an angry expression and her cheeks became flushed. There are other reports from history of severed heads that seem to have shown signs of consciousness. Anne Boleyn, for example, apparently tried to speak after being beheaded. But are these stories bogus or is there scientific evidence that the head can remain conscious after it has been separated from the body that sustains it?

The chair has to be about the worst way to die.

roadscholar wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 11:12 pm

The chair has to be about the worst way to die.

I agree. Pain happens through nerves. Electricity lighting up then burning out nerves... nah. I’d pick pretty much anything over that.

Say... wouldn’t there be a whole bunch of street heroin seized in drug busts just lying around evidence rooms doing nothing?

To be hanged, drawn and quartered was, from 1352 after the Treason Act 1351, a statutory penalty in England for men convicted of high treason, although the ritual was first recorded during the reign of King Henry III (1216–1272). The convicted traitor was fastened to a hurdle, or wooden panel, and drawn by horse to the place of execution, where he was then hanged (almost to the point of death), emasculated, disembowelled, beheaded, and quartered (chopped into four pieces). His remains would then often be displayed in prominent places across the country, such as London Bridge, to serve as a warning of the fate of traitors. For reasons of public decency, women convicted of high treason were instead burned at the stake.

HOUSTON (AP) — While officials with the Texas Department of Criminal Justice are blaming miscommunication for preventing reporters from witnessing the state’s first execution in nearly a year, legal and death penalty experts worry it's another example of what they see as a lack of transparency and competency in how the death penalty is carried out in the U.S.

Two reporters, including one with The Associated Press, had been set to witness Wednesday’s execution of Quintin Jones at the state penitentiary in Huntsville. But they were not escorted into a viewing room adjacent to the death chamber because a call was never made to summon them.

Jones, condemned for the September 1999 killing of his great-aunt, Berthena Bryant, was executed with no media present. The previous 570 executions carried out since Texas resumed capital punishment in 1982 all had at least one media witness — and it was often an AP journalist.

The AP aims to cover every U.S. execution, one of the gravest procedures carried out by governments, and has for decades because the public has the right to know about all stages of the criminal justice process. The AP often is the sole media presence at U.S. executions, and explains the American death penalty process to the world.

AndyinPA wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:11 am https://www.chron.com/news/article/Expe ... 192390.php

HOUSTON (AP) — While officials with the Texas Department of Criminal Justice are blaming miscommunication for preventing reporters from witnessing the state’s first execution in nearly a year, legal and death penalty experts worry it's another example of what they see as a lack of transparency and competency in how the death penalty is carried out in the U.S.

Two reporters, including one with The Associated Press, had been set to witness Wednesday’s execution of Quintin Jones at the state penitentiary in Huntsville. But they were not escorted into a viewing room adjacent to the death chamber because a call was never made to summon them.

Jones, condemned for the September 1999 killing of his great-aunt, Berthena Bryant, was executed with no media present. The previous 570 executions carried out since Texas resumed capital punishment in 1982 all had at least one media witness — and it was often an AP journalist.

The AP aims to cover every U.S. execution, one of the gravest procedures carried out by governments, and has for decades because the public has the right to know about all stages of the criminal justice process. The AP often is the sole media presence at U.S. executions, and explains the American death penalty process to the world.

zekeb wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:10 pm Have you ever received a really really nasty electric shock? I have. On top of that, mine was for only a fraction of a second. Imagine receiving something like that for several seconds - perhaps close to a minute of pain if your scrambled brain still has its senses intact. The chair has to be about the worst way to die.

roadscholar wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:03 pm That's why DC is so much more dangerous than AC. You hit a DC current just right, it can contract a hand onto the wire or whatever and you can't let go. Yikes.

Frater I*I wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 3:06 pm

roadscholar wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:03 pm That's why DC is so much more dangerous than AC. You hit a DC current just right, it can contract a hand onto the wire or whatever and you can't let go. Yikes.

Gotta reverse your current's there.