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trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:36 pm
by Kriselda Gray
Slarti the White wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:14 pm
Gregg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:13 pm
pipistrelle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:21 pm
He’ll have to eliminate Stefanik. She wants it.
How'z about the Dems in the House pick the Republican that they most would be able to work with, and cut a deal with 4 or 5 sensible Republicans to set up a Congress that would actually get things done.
All it would take is half a dozen Republicans to go along with every Democrat. The speaker needs 218 votes, doesn't matter what party they come from.
Liz Cheney anyone?
She lost her primary and won't be in the house any longer.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:36 pm
by Gregg
MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:21 pm
I guess Trump missed the fact that he LOST his last election while DeSantis won his with no endorsement from Donny.
Trump, very bravely went out on a limb and endorsed him Sunday. It helped his won/loss record.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:14 pm
by MN-Skeptic
Gregg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:36 pm
MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:21 pm
I guess Trump missed the fact that he LOST his last election while DeSantis won his with no endorsement from Donny.
Trump, very bravely went out on a limb and endorsed him Sunday. It helped his won/loss record.
Really? I missed that.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:27 pm
by raison de arizona
much ado wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:38 pm
Yeah, meanwhile a large part of the GOP now thinks that Trump is a losing loser who loses and is the cause of their losses.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:02 pm
by Dr. Ken
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:07 pm
by Slarti the White
Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:36 pm
Slarti the White wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:14 pm
Gregg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:13 pm
How'z about the Dems in the House pick the Republican that they most would be able to work with, and cut a deal with 4 or 5 sensible Republicans to set up a Congress that would actually get things done.
All it would take is half a dozen Republicans to go along with every Democrat. The speaker needs 218 votes, doesn't matter what party they come from.
Liz Cheney anyone?
She lost her primary and won't be in the house any longer.
As has been mentioned upthread, being in the house is not a requirement for Speaker -- Liz Cheney is actually someone for whom a few Republicans might be willing to vote. Certainly she should be a slam-dunk choice over Kevin McCarthy to any Democrat.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:14 pm
by Gregg
Slarti the White wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:07 pm
Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:36 pm
She lost her primary and won't be in the house any longer.
As has been mentioned upthread, being in the house is not a requirement for Speaker -- Liz Cheney is actually someone for whom a few Republicans might be willing to vote. Certainly she should be a slam-dunk choice over Kevin McCarthy to any Democrat.
That is actually a very good idea
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:57 pm
by much ado
Even though the Constitution does not explicitly require the Speaker to be chosen from among the members of the House, I think it was assumed that the Speaker would be a member. The Articles of Confederation were explicit about this.
I have questions.
Would there be a salary paid to a Speaker who was not a member of the House? How would that be done? What rights would a non-member Speaker have? Does the House have any rules that exclude non-members from some activities that would be required of a Speaker? Does the Speaker have no duties of any kind whatever that require them to be a member of the House?
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:02 pm
by June bug
Good questions, much ado.
One other, not disqualifying, but interesting: A non-member would have no vote, correct?
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:07 pm
by Suranis
Salons pretty trashy, but The headline says it all. Trump has lost the Murdoch one man one vote.
“Coordinated effort across Fox News, WSJ and NY Post”: Rupert Murdoch dumps "biggest loser" Trump
https://www.salon.com/2022/11/10/coordi ... est-loser/
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:09 pm
by much ado
Ha. Ha. Ha.
I see the vultures circling.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:06 am
by RTH10260
others take note
Has ‘Trumpty Dumpty’ taken a great fall from Rupert Murdoch’s grace?
Murdoch-owned media have not held back against the former president in the wake of Republicans’ disappointing midterms
Adam Gabbatt in New York
Thu 10 Nov 2022 17.15 GMT
On election day, Donald Trump was clear about how his efforts to support Republican candidates should be seen.
“Well, I think if they win, I should get all the credit,” Trump told NewsNation. “If they lose, I should not be blamed at all.”
Unfortunately for Trump, he did not get what he hoped for. Instead the former president has seen conservative news outlets, the Rupert Murdoch-owned ones in particular, turn on him, in some cases with gleeful abandon.
“Trumpty Dumpty” blared the front page of Thursday’s New York Post, the tabloid Murdoch has owned since 1976. Editors went so far as to mock up Trump as Humpty Dumpty, his enlarged orange head stuffed into a white shirt and a signature red tie.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... is-ny-post
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:50 am
by Kriselda Gray
Slarti the White wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:07 pm
Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:36 pm
She lost her primary and won't be in the house any longer.
As has been mentioned upthread, being in the house is not a requirement for Speaker -- Liz Cheney is actually someone for whom a few Republicans might be willing to vote. Certainly she should be a slam-dunk choice over Kevin McCarthy to any Democrat.
Oh yeah, I wasn't thinking about that... she'd certainly be better than McCarthy!
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:00 am
by Slim Cognito
June bug wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:02 pm
Good questions, much ado.
One other, not disqualifying, but interesting:
A non-member would have no vote, correct?
Another reason for Dems to vote for her.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:57 am
by bill_g
If we can't get him fitted for an orange junpsuit, perhaps a white one would be appropriate.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:34 am
by noblepa
June bug wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:02 pm
Good questions, much ado.
One other, not disqualifying, but interesting: A non-member would have no vote, correct?
Doesn't one have to be a member just to get on the House floor?
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:22 am
by Dr. Ken
Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:02 pm
Every accusation of a stolen election by trump is always a confession.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:27 am
by Gupwalla
noblepa wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:34 am
Doesn't one have to be a member just to get on the House floor?
The House sets its own rules for such matters. They are not bound (except by the inertia of tradition) to rules of prior Congresses.
I think it is unlikely that they will reach outside their own body for Speaker. Not impossible, but unlikely.
EDIT to add: It’s not yet a foregone conclusion that they will have the choice. They have the edge right now, but that’s not the same as having a majority. As of this edit, they need 7 more called seats.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:37 pm
by Kendra
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:56 pm
by tek
his insanity is accelerating..
his behavior at Tiffany's wedding reception tomorrow is gonna be LIT.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:57 pm
by AndyinPA
His party is full of slow learners.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:22 pm
by neonzx
tek wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:56 pm
his insanity is accelerating..
his behavior at Tiffany's wedding reception tomorrow is gonna be LIT.
You are in near driving distance. Go crash it and give us BOTG reporting.
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:28 pm
by Kendra
tek wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:56 pm
his insanity is accelerating..
his behavior at Tiffany's wedding reception tomorrow is gonna be LIT.
Lordy, I hope there are tapes
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:31 pm
by Kendra
trump (the former guy)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:36 pm
by tek
neonzx wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:22 pm
tek wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:56 pm
his insanity is accelerating..
his behavior at Tiffany's wedding reception tomorrow is gonna be LIT.
You are in near driving distance. Go crash it and give us BOTG reporting.
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