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Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:22 pm
by neonzx
The East Coast part of the convoy have arrived in Jacksonville,FL (finally!) in a parking lot. They have a singer who is actually decent. Again, most everything about this reminds me of the people's convoy.
But they are not camping in the lot. They have hotel/motel rooms on their road trip vacation.
Continues 9:00 am ET tomorrow.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:29 am
by neonzx
The convoy didn't start moving until around 10:00am not the scheduled 9:00am. I swear these protestors are just old lazy farts. It finally got moving after everyone was done yaking and then prayers, of course. The destination is Baton Rouge, LA for the evening. Let us see if they can make it before midnight with all their pit stops.
It's not a protest. It's a social event for the elderly and younger persons who live in thier parent's basements. Road trip vacation for them, as I said before.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:00 pm
by poplove
Day one updates from the little convoy.
The ‘Take Our Border Back’ Convoy Is Already a Complete Mess
https://www.wired.com/story/day-one-tak ... voy-texas/
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On Monday morning, the organizers of the Take Our Border Back convoy kicked off their road trip to the Texas–Mexico border in Virginia Beach. Though they claimed that up to 40,000 trucks would be joining, only 20 vehicles made up the convoy as it rolled into Jacksonville, Florida, 14 hours later. The promised support had not materialized—not a single truck showed up, tires were reportedly slashed, participants got lost, and paranoia struck the group. In short, the convoy was a complete mess.
The convoy was organized last week as a show of support for Texas governor Greg Abbott and his decision to defy the federal government and President Joe Biden about the installation of razor wire along the Texas–Mexico border in Eagle Pass, Texas. While at least one organizer initially said they planned to hunt down migrants along the border in collaboration with sympathetic members of law enforcement, the group appeared to walk back that assertion on Monday, issuing a statement that the convoy would not be heading to the border at all but instead going to Quemado, a tiny town in Catron County, Texas. The group’s website, however, still lists the route of the convoy as “Virginia Beach, VA, to Eagle Pass,” and members of the planning group on Telegram still say they are going to the Texas border.
The organizers also repeatedly stated that the event was peaceful, though online chats in a related Telegram group show members discussing “exterminating” migrants. A known white nationalist who was kicked out of the People’s Convoy in 2022, Ryan Sanchez, is among those most active in the group. Sanchez was previously a Marine Corp reservist who says he was kicked out after he was reported to have been demonstrating alongside the Rise Above Movement, an alt-right street-fighting group that took part in the neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017, which led to the death of one counterprotester.
“I think the Eagle Pass rally is going to be the ’main event,’” Sanchez wrote in the convoy Telegram channel. “We need to think strategically and concentrate our limited resources where they will have the greatest effect.”
But on the first day of the convoy, some attendees woke up to find their tires slashed, according to one of the main livestreamers who posted pictures on X of the cars outside a motel. The meeting point also had to be hastily rearranged on Monday morning when the owners of the original location told the organizers they couldn’t gather there.
When the convoy did finally come together in a hotel parking lot in Norfolk, Virginia, there were a few dozen people and around 20 vehicles, based on video footage reviewed by WIRED and comments made by the livestreamers responding to questions from supporters.
The day began with a speech from Craig Hudgins, one of the organizers, who stressed that the event was a "peaceful, peaceable demonstration.” Hudgins also claimed—without evidence—that he had heard that up to “40,000 truckers from all over the country and Canada” would be joining the convoy—although not a single one of those trucks managed to join the group during the first day. The convoy members also heard from Ivan Raiklin, who was involved in the efforts to block Joe Biden’s election win and is an ally of disgraced national security adviser Michael Flynn.
Finally, after a prayer from a pastor linked to the Church Militant, a far-right religious website, the convoy rolled out an hour later than scheduled and headed down I-95. It was spearheaded by a bus covered in MAGA slogans.
Almost immediately, one of the vehicles in the convoy got lost, according to messages posted in the Zello walkie-talkie app that the group is using to communicate while on the road. Later, when the convoy linked up to discuss evening plans, the meeting quickly descended into an argument about where they were going to be staying. Even trying to meet up at a gas station was difficult: Due to the size of a Buc-ee’s in South Carolina, convoy members couldn’t locate each other.
A few hours into the trip, the lead bus pulled over onto the highway shoulder and kicked out one of the people onboard, who had traveled on his own from Washington, DC. It was unclear exactly why he was ejected, but the man, who is part of a group that protests daily in support of people jailed for rioting at the Capitol on January 6, was left stranded in Florence, South Carolina, without his wallet, according to details discussed on a livestream of someone in contact with the man.
Throughout the day, the half-dozen people livestreaming the convoy spent much of their time responding to questions from some of the thousands of people watching.
Most of the questions were about the conspiracy that the convoy is a “setup” by the federal government to “entrap patriots.” That sense of paranoia has been present in the group from the very beginning, according to leaks of the group’s chats on Discord: “This will end up loaded with trolls and feds in no time,” one member wrote a week ago.
Paranoia was also prevalent on the Telegram channels used to coordinate the convoy in different parts of the country. “I hope it’s not another J6 trap. People need to pray for discernment about this. But after 3 years of this people are sick of it,” one member wrote, referring to the widely debunked conspiracy that the Capitol insurrection was a left-wing plan to trap Trump supporters.
On Monday, after the cars had started on the road, organizers issued a press release, claiming “groups are forming to infiltrate the convoy.” The statement also claims that “nowhere on the website does it say anything about the convoy going to the border,” which is inaccurate, as the route for the main convoy clearly states the final destination is Eagle Pass.
Additionally, one of the organizers of the convoy, Pete Chambers, told Alex Jones last week that his plan included traveling to the border to hunt migrants and work with local law enforcement to capture them. Among those traveling with the convoy, multiple people on Monday mentioned going to Eagle Pass. “We’re all going to the border,” one member declared on the livestream on Monday night.
Though the convoy’s start was full of mishaps, others planning to join the convoy still appear to be taking their plans seriously. Online, a number of people are openly talking about going to the border: “Those going to Eagle Pass on Saturday, message me,” one member of the Texas-focused Take Our Border Back Telegram channel wrote. “I'm organizing level 2 security detail composed of veterans and prior law enforcement guys. We're not going to engage any threats or go in guns blazing. We'll just keep a watchful eye and report any suspicious behavior.”
As the convoy has gained some media attention, the Telegram channels have been scrubbed of a lot of the more virulent, racist, and violent language used by members. However, leaks of the Telegram chat detail clearly how members spoke openly about “exterminating” migrants.
Since Abbott issued his letter in defiance of the Biden administration, he has seen support flow in from dozens of GOP governors and former president Donald Trump, who has urged other states to send troops to Texas. The convoy has been portrayed in right-wing media in recent days as part of a wider right-wing effort to support Abbott and resist Biden’s immigration policies, and as a result, its organizers have been able to raise over $140,000 on a Christian-focused crowdfunding website.
On Tuesday morning, the convoy departed Jacksonville for Baton Rouge, Louisiana, with a few more vehicles joining the group—but still no trucks.
ETA: headline
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:56 pm
by Volkonski
Quemado, a tiny town in Catron County, Texas
There is no Catron County in Texas.
There is a Census Designated Place called Quemado, population about 162, in Maverick County, TX. Eagle Pass is the county seat of Maverick County.
Per Wikipedia-
The City of Eagle Pass was sued by the US government in 2008 to gain access to the land and construct a fence on the United States-Mexico border.[9] An ongoing public corruption, bid-rigging, and kickback investigation by the FBI and Texas Department of Public Safety has resulted in the arrest and imprisonment of all four Maverick County commissioners, one justice of the peace, and several local government employees and businessmen since October 2012, making it the largest public criminal probe in Eagle Pass and Maverick County history.[10] On February 20, 2015, a federal grand jury in Del Rio indicted a county commissioner and a former county justice of the peace in connection with an alleged bribery, kickback, and bid-rigging scheme, all related to the ongoing public corruption investigation.[11] On February 23, 2015, former Maverick County Commissioner Rodolfo Heredia was sentenced to 10 years in federal prison, followed by three years of supervised release, and ordered to perform 1,200 hours of community service after completing his prison term. He was also ordered to pay a maximum of $56,003.88 in restitution to Maverick County.[12
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:17 pm
by Volkonski
The Take Our Border Back convoy folk will probably be horrified when they get to Eagle Pass and discover that the population is 95% Hispanic.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:19 pm
by realist
Volkonski wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:17 pm
The Take Our Border Back convoy folk will probably be horrified when they get to Eagle Pass and discover that the population is 95% Hispanic.
And they'll consider them all illegals. You know, brown.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:35 pm
by Volkonski
Never fear. They can find some real Americans just south of Eagle Pass on the Kickapoo Indian Reservation of Texas.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:38 pm
by Volkonski
Our local airport here in Wichita Falls is the Kickapoo Downtown Airport but it gets its name from the Oklahoma Kickapoos.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:31 pm
by neonzx
East Coast convoy is presently at Robertsville Alabama. Another Buc-ees stop. They have been for an hour and a half. Dang, they be the laziest persons in the country.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:15 pm
by johnpcapitalist
neonzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:31 pm
East Coast convoy is presently at Robertsville Alabama. Another Buc-ees stop. They have been for an hour and a half. Dang, they be the laziest persons in the country.
Perhaps the convoy is composed of tons of people who have never seen a Buc-ees, and wander the aisles in mesmerized sensory overload. I doubt many of them have the disposable income to indulge in a massive recreational shopping spree.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:10 pm
by neonzx
johnpcapitalist wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:15 pm
neonzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:31 pm
East Coast convoy is presently at Robertsville Alabama. Another Buc-ees stop. They have been for an hour and a half. Dang, they be the laziest persons in the country.
Perhaps the convoy is composed of tons of people who have never seen a Buc-ees, and wander the aisles in mesmerized sensory overload. I doubt many of them have the disposable income to indulge in a massive recreational shopping spree.
A couple of the travelers have been looking to buy CB radios. Buc-ees doesn't have those. It's 2024 not 1984.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:12 pm
by Frater I*I
neonzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:10 pm
A couple of the travelers have been looking to
buy CB radios. Buc-ees doesn't have those. It's 2024 not 1984.
Someone should suggest that they can use Google maps to find their way to a local Radio Shack
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:26 pm
by pipistrelle
johnpcapitalist wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:15 pm
neonzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:31 pm
East Coast convoy is presently at Robertsville Alabama. Another Buc-ees stop. They have been for an hour and a half. Dang, they be the laziest persons in the country.
Perhaps the convoy is composed of tons of people who have never seen a Buc-ees, and wander the aisles in mesmerized sensory overload. I doubt many of them have the disposable income to indulge in a massive recreational shopping spree.
The chain has also become well known for the cleanliness of its bathrooms, mascot, and the company's prohibition of 18-wheelers at their locations.
Odd place for a truck convoy, eh? (If they had trucks.)
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:34 pm
by Estiveo
Frater I*I wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:12 pm
neonzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:10 pm
A couple of the travelers have been looking to
buy CB radios. Buc-ees doesn't have those. It's 2024 not 1984.
Someone should suggest that they can use Google maps to find their way to a local Radio Shack
I'm pretty sure I have one stored away in the garage somewhere. They can have it if they can find it.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:54 pm
by neonzx
So the East Coast convoy arrived in Baton Rouge at around 10:15pm CT at a Pilot truck stop. They are heading into Texas tomorrow. Evening ended with prayer, as all the starts and stops do. Army of God, after all .
They were told they can sleep in their vehicles at the lot of Bass Pro Shops, or there are motels nearby.
It is the people's convoy all over again.
Edit: Do they have poop buckets?
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:35 am
by johnpcapitalist
neonzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:10 pm
A couple of the travelers have been looking to buy CB radios. Buc-ees doesn't have those. It's 2024 not 1984.
That's a clue as to how economically marginal the convoy folks are. They want CB because it's free.
That's probably because they are too poor to afford standard "post-paid" cellphone plans and instead have to use prepaid plans like Tracfone which provide relatively minimal data allowances. They probably were using an app called Zello to talk to each other, which provides walkie-talkie functionality to groups of people. Unfortunately, since Zello is an app and not a virtual layer on top of a phone connection (like Google Voice), it burns up your data allowance pretty fast.
Given that they were promising 700,000 trucks would join the convoy, how would they find enough CB units so everyone can have their own?
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:06 am
by neonzx
Yes jpc, they are using the Zello talk app to communicate.
But if you are nearby, they are using channel 37 on the old school CB.
And on the 700,000 truckers. It was downgraded to 40,000. But even one of the lead organizers is saying it won't be that. Curb your enthusiasm.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:20 am
by Sam the Centipede
40,000 trucks now predicted by organizers? If they mean big trucks with lots of wheels, they probably need to knock four zeros of that number and then it is a nice "stretch goal."
But here's a plan: get Elon Musk to donate 10,000 CyberTrucks!
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:36 am
by RTH10260
Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:20 am
40,000 trucks now predicted by organizers? If they mean big trucks with lots of wheels, they probably need to knock four zeros of that number and then it is a nice "stretch goal."
But here's a plan:
get Elon Musk to donate 10,000 CyberTrucks!
Uhh yes, he is great supporter of the TX state. But the convoy will crash the TX electrical grid with their success story
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:38 am
by bill_g
RTH10260 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:36 am
Uhh yes, he is great supporter of the TX state. But the convoy will crash the TX electrical grid with their success story
Mmmmm ... it's between extreme seasons. Texas Electron (or whatever the prime power utility is named) may actually possibly be able to remain standing when more than 10 EV's plug in across the state.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:42 am
by bill_g
Swerving back on topic, a lone crazy Trumper disagreed with his father. So, he beheaded him. Of course.
Man Beheads Federal Employee Father And Calls For 'Revolution' Against 'Biden Regime' and 'Army Of Illegal Immigrants'
In a gruesome incident in Middleton Township, Pennsylvania, a 32-year-old man named Justin Mohn decapitated his 68-year-old father, Michael Mohn, a federal government employee of more than 20 years. Following the horrifying act, Justin recorded a 14-minute video, which he later posted on YouTube, where he displayed his father's severed head.
The video has since been taken down, but the MTN article describe how he delivered a scree that touched on many of the typical GQP talking points.
I'm of the belief the man is mentally ill and needs help, but he'll get that help inside prison. It's clear he is a danger to others and himself. Lock him up, keep him away from the internet and all other media, and try to deprogram him behind bars where he will spend the rest of his life.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:01 am
by Foggy
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Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:07 am
by RTH10260
Foggy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:01 am
mod=Foggy]No, I am not going to make a new thread and move all the posts. Anyone else should know the Trucker's Army of God deserves a thread of its own /mod]
they will not last long enough for a thread of their own stupidity.
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:08 am
by RTH10260
US rightwing conspiracy theory touts Taylor Swift as ‘Pentagon asset’
Far-right influencers make absurd claim singer an ‘election psyop’ to ‘manipulate’ voters after ‘rigged’ Super Bowl favors Chiefs
Adam Gabbatt
Wed 31 Jan 2024 11.00 CET
Taylor Swift is a “Pentagon asset”, an “election interference psyop” who, with unnamed left-leaning forces, has conspired to “rig” the Super Bowl and then endorse Joe Biden in the presidential election.
That’s according to a raft of influential rightwing figures, who have begun to spread a conspiracy theory that Swift, a pop star, is part of a nefarious plot ahead of November’s presidential election.
Swift has found herself at the center of the rightwing commentariat’s attention in recent weeks after intense media focus on her relationship with Travis Kelce, a star tight end for the Kansas City Chiefs football team.
She has been in the crowd as the Chiefs have progressed through the NFL playoffs: on Sunday, the team won the AFC Championship game, and will play in the Super Bowl on 11 February. The attention their romance has received has led to a number conspiracy theories.
“I think – and I’ve said this, I’ve taken a lot of crap for this online – I think they’re using Taylor Swift right now,” Jack Posobiec, an influential rightwing conspiracy theorist, said in a video posted on Truth Social on Monday.
“They’re gearing up for an operation to use Taylor Swift in the election against everything: against Trump, for Biden, they’re gonna get her and all you know they call them the Swifties they’re going to turn those into voters, you watch.”
Posobiec did not elaborate on who “they” are, but Roseanne Barr, the rightwing former actor who, for unexplained reasons, was also in the video, agreed.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/ ... racy-biden
Crazy Trumpers
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:27 am
by Rolodex
Oh no! Poor Taylor is being used! She has no agency of her own! (They believe this because they think that's true of all women, I guess).
Oh no! More people voting! That's so unAmerican!
ETA: It's all so dumb. I personally know MAGATs who have gone to TS concerts.