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Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:49 pm
by AndyinPA
I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't have any "copies."

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:19 pm
by Ben-Prime
raison de arizona wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:21 pm :roll: Let's see how that turns out for you.
Thomas Massie @RepThomasMassie wrote: For what it’s worth, under the Constitution, no member of Congress can be prosecuted for reading aloud on the floor any of the documents Trump allegedly has copies of.
Wouldn't they first have to know which ones they are and get copies of them?

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:19 pm
by raison de arizona
Will Walt Nauta flip? Trump keeps valet close as question hovers over the case.
From military valet to co-defendant, the remarkable rise of Trump’s body man could be his downfall

The night before pleading not guilty to federal charges that he broke the law dozens of times by keeping and concealing sensitive government documents in his Florida home, Donald Trump sat down to dinner at his Miami Doral golf resort with his top lawyers, influential advisers — and his alleged co-conspirator.

Waltine “Walt” Nauta wasn’t there serving the former president, or escorting famous guests to his table before fading into the background as he has at times in the past, people familiar with the dinner said.

This time, the personal aide, who was charged with conspiring with Trump to hide classified documents from the government, dined at the club’s swanky steakhouse, BLT Prime, as a guest of the former president. Joining them around the table was a large group that included Trump’s political advisers, his lawyer Christopher Kise, Nauta’s lawyer, Stanley Woodward, and right-wing media figure Tom Fitton. Nauta was quiet throughout the dinner, three people with knowledge of the matter said.

Nauta’s seat at the table with the country’s 45th president has come at a steep cost.
:snippity:
Gift link: https://wapo.st/42Ih3Kr

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:22 pm
by Maybenaut
raison de arizona wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:21 pm :roll: Let's see how that turns out for you.
Thomas Massie @RepThomasMassie wrote: For what it’s worth, under the Constitution, no member of Congress can be prosecuted for reading aloud on the floor any of the documents Trump allegedly has copies of.
Even if that’s true, it wouldn’t change anything for Trump. His crimes have been long completed.

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:27 pm
by Foggy
Oh, I definitely encourage the Republicans to start reading the documents that he claims he declassified.

Let's start with nuclear secrets, shall we?

You go right ahead and read some nuclear secrets out loud on the floor of the House of Representatives of the United States of America, to prove Trump is ... well, not innocent, but her emails, I mean, Hunter Biden’s laptop! This is gonna work for you. Nobody much cares, huh? :biggrin:

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:51 am
by Volkonski
Trump lawyers put on notice by Jack Smith of more legal moves to come

https://www.rawstory.com/jack-smith-trump-2661459240/
In a legal filing made late Friday, attorneys working for special counsel Jack Smith notified the court that information they will be handing over to Donald Trump's attorneys as part of the discovery process will contain some information on "ongoing investigations" that could lead to new charges.

According to a report from Alan Feuer of the New York Times, those documents also contain information about "uncharged individuals.”

Now that the former president has been arraigned in a Florida courtroom on 37 federal counts that include alleged violations of the Espionage Act, prosecutors are pressing forward with normal court procedures and the notice given on Friday puts Trump's lawyers on notice that there is likely more to come.

RELATED: 'The dam will break': former Trump communications chief predicts voters will abandon Trump

As Feuer wrote, "...the reference to continuing investigations was the first overt suggestion — however vague — that other criminal cases could emerge from the work that the special counsel Jack Smith has done in bringing the Espionage Act and obstruction indictment against Mr. Trump in Miami last week."

The Times report notes that the mention of "ongoing investigations" likely are related to Smith's inquiry into the events of Jan 6th when the former president helped incite an insurrection at the Capitol where protestors attempted to halt the certification of the 2020 presidential election that Trump lost.

The Times is reporting, "The government’s motion for a protective order, which Mr. Trump’s lawyers did not oppose, said that prosecutors were ready to start turning over a trove of nonclassified evidence that they had collected during the documents investigation," then adding, "It also sought to restrict disclosure of the evidence to Mr. Trump’s legal team; to people who might be interviewed as witnesses and their lawyers; and to any others who were specifically authorized by the court."

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:24 pm
by AndyinPA
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 023-06-18/
WASHINGTON, June 18 (Reuters) - Even when he was president, Donald Trump lacked the legal authority to declassify a U.S. nuclear weapons-related document that he is charged with illegally possessing, security experts said, contrary to the former U.S. president’s claim.

The secret document, listed as No. 19 in the indictment charging Trump with endangering national security, can under the Atomic Energy Act only be declassified through a process that by the statute involves the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense.

For that reason, the experts said, the nuclear document is unique among the 31 in the indictment because the declassification of the others is governed by executive order. 

“The claim that he (Trump) could have declassified it is not relevant in the case of the nuclear weapons information because it was not classified by executive order but by law,” said Steven Aftergood, a government secrecy expert with the Federation of Atomic Scientists.

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:58 pm
by bob
“The claim that he (Trump) could have declassified it is not relevant in the case of the nuclear weapons information because it was not classified by executive order but by law,” said Steven Aftergood, a government secrecy expert with the Federation of Atomic Scientists.
If you're saying he couldn't have secretly declassified these documents, then he secretly pardoned himself for possessing them. :towel:

#MAGAicalthinking

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:16 pm
by raison de arizona
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Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:13 am
by poplove


:biggrin: :batting:

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:21 am
by poplove
One more.

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:23 am
by RTH10260
:o now he will be losing his case for sure ....
Top Trump prosecutor Karen Gilbert has checkered past: ‘Sorry sack of lies’

By Jon Levine
June 17, 2023 9:36am Updated

A top prosecutor in the classified documents case against former President Trump was once cited for unethical behavior in a federal drug case, court records show.

Karen Gilbert, 59, who now has a leading role in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s prosecution of former President Trump, was forced to resign as chief of the narcotics section of the Miami U.S. Attorney’s office for her role in secretly taping a defense lawyer in 2009, court papers show.



https://nypost.com/2023/06/17/top-trump ... ered-past/

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:15 pm
by Kendra
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... -rcna90684
Trump campaign's Election Day operations official appears before Jan. 6 grand jury
G. Michael Brown appeared as part of special counsel Jack Smith's probe into the "fake electors" scheme to stop the lawful transfer of power to Joe Biden after the 2020 election.
Edit: :snippity:
Stanley Woodward — an attorney who is representing several Trump aides, including Walt Nauta, who was indicted along with Trump in the Mar-a-Lago case — accompanied Brown in court on Thursday but declined to comment.
:snippity:

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:21 pm
by somerset
RTH10260 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:23 am :o now he will be losing his case for sure ....
Top Trump prosecutor Karen Gilbert has checkered past: ‘Sorry sack of lies’

By Jon Levine
June 17, 2023 9:36am Updated

A top prosecutor in the classified documents case against former President Trump was once cited for unethical behavior in a federal drug case, court records show.

Karen Gilbert, 59, who now has a leading role in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s prosecution of former President Trump, was forced to resign as chief of the narcotics section of the Miami U.S. Attorney’s office for her role in secretly taping a defense lawyer in 2009, court papers show.



https://nypost.com/2023/06/17/top-trump ... ered-past/
I'm guessing tfg's legal team is doing some "opposition research" on the prosecution team, which is what one does when one wants to try a case in the court of public opinion. This also came out on CNN a few days ago:


Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:12 am
by Volkonski
The Sentence That 'Made Donald Trump Blow a Gasket': Kirschner

https://www.newsweek.com/sentence-that- ... er-1808575
Former President Donald Trump was triggered enough to "blow a gasket" after receiving the first batch of evidence being used against him in the Mar-a-Lago documents case, former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner said.

According to a court filing on Wednesday, Special Counsel Jack Smith has begun providing Trump's legal team with evidence used in the Department of Justice's investigation into the former president's handling of classified documents since leaving the White House. Trump is facing 37 federal felony counts.

The discovery order filed by the DOJ lists several pieces of evidence, including audio recordings or written statements of interviews that Trump "conducted with non-government entities" at his "consent" that have been obtained by Smith's office. The Justice Department also mentions an audio recording made in July 2021 at Trump's Bedminster Golf Club in New Jersey that was previewed in the indictment.

Other pieces of evidence listed in the discovery include "grand jury testimony of witnesses who will testify for the government at the trial of this case." Federal prosecutors did not provide specific names of the witnesses in Trump's indictment but often described the unnamed sources as "Trump Employee 1" or "Trump Attorney 1." A reference to a Trump family member is also included in the indictment.

According to Kirschner, providing a preview of the witnesses who testified against him "made Donald Trump blow a gasket" after reviewing the discovery order.

"That's right, friends," Kirschner said during Thursday's episode of his Justice Matters podcast. "Donald Trump now has the grand jury transcript so he can see for the first time who testified against him and what they told the grand jury about his criminal activity. So, it just got real for Donald Trump."

Kirschner went on to infer that the witnesses in question likely told Trump "everything he wanted to hear" while working closely to the former president but did not say the same "when they were hauled before the grand jury."

"They swore to tell the truth and if they lied in there, they could be charged with perjury," he noted.

"So, who were all the people that Jack Smith compelled to testify in the grand jury about Donald Trump's crimes?" Kirschner added. "Most of them were allies."

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:20 pm
by Kendra
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/politics ... index.html
Special counsel Jack Smith has compelled at least two Republican fake electors to testify to a federal grand jury in Washington in recent weeks by giving them limited immunity, part of a current push by federal prosecutors to swiftly nail down evidence in the sprawling criminal investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

The testimony, described to CNN by people familiar with the situation, comes after a year of relative dormancy around the fake electors portion of the investigation and as a parade of related witnesses are being told to appear before the grand jury with no chance for delay.

That activity could signal that investigators are nearing at least some charging decisions in a part of the 2020 election probe, sources added. It also comes just as the special counsel’s office filed charges against former President Donald Trump for his handling of classified documents.
Moar at the link.

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:08 pm
by Kendra
:popcorn:

On MSNBC right now, 5 or 6 Secret Service agents have testified before J6 grand jury.

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:27 am
by Kendra

Special Counsel Jack Smith’s team to interview Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger on Wednesday.

“This would be Raffensperger’s first interview with the Justice Department.”

@jdawsey1

@DevlinBarrett
report

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:57 am
by Suranis
One would think that a story about Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger would warrant a picture of Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger.

They should just mock up a picture of that fat incompetent in a bikini and be done with it.

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:51 am
by raison de arizona
tfg is reTruthing Mark Levine, Jack Smith must burn for this!
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Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:09 am
by Maybenaut
raison de arizona wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:51 am tfg is reTruthing Mark Levine, Jack Smith must burn for this!
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For those who can’t see it, one of the embedded “truths” (omg :sick: ) says Trump is being prosecuted for sharing information with a reporter. That’s not technically true. Not yet, anyway.

Although the indictment talks about that stuff at Bedminster, he’s not charged with that in the Southern District of Florida. But it is relevant to show he knew he couldn’t declassify things.

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:51 am
by June bug
Maybenaut wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:09 am
raison de arizona wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:51 am tfg is reTruthing Mark Levine, Jack Smith must burn for this!
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For those who can’t see it, one of the embedded “truths” (omg :sick: ) says Trump is being prosecuted for sharing information with a reporter. That’s not technically true. Not yet, anyway.

Although the indictment talks about that stuff at Bedminster, he’s not charged with that in the Southern District of Florida. But it is relevant to show he knew he couldn’t declassify things.
Not to mention DOJ didn’t share classified documents with anyone. And most likely didn’t “share” anything.

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:10 am
by Kendra
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/27/politics ... index.html

Former Donald Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani has been interviewed by federal investigators as part of the special counsel’s investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election results, multiple sources familiar with the meeting told CNN.

The meeting between Giuliani, his attorney Robert Costello, and investigators took place in recent weeks. The sources declined to say what investigators’ questions focused on during the meeting, which has not been previously reported.

Special counsel Jack Smith has not announced any charges stemming from his investigation into efforts to block the certification of the 2020 presidential election, but prosecutors appear to be nearing charging decisions, sources familiar with the case have said.
:snippity:
Ted Goodman, a Giuliani political adviser, told CNN that “the appearance was entirely voluntary and conducted in a professional manner.”
:snippity:

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:48 pm
by RVInit
If any of Giuliani's brain is left he should be spilling every single detail against Trump as he can possibly remember. Regardless of how despicable and creepy Giuliani is, Trump treated him abominably, especially considering that Giuliani destroyed any bit of reputation he may have had. And, of course, did not pay him one thin dime after Giuliani spent months trying to overturn the election for Trump. I can't stand Giuliani, but I sure hope he has decided to screw Trump over and tell all.

Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:07 pm
by jemcanada2
RVInit wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:48 pm If any of Giuliani's brain is left he should be spilling every single detail against Trump as he can possibly remember. Regardless of how despicable and creepy Giuliani is, Trump treated him abominably, especially considering that Giuliani destroyed any bit of reputation he may have had. And, of course, did not pay him one thin dime after Giuliani spent months trying to overturn the election for Trump. I can't stand Giuliani, but I sure hope he has decided to screw Trump over and tell all.
:yeahthat: