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qbawl wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:03 pm Who is the General referring to at the end of his comments as a fellow 'Green Beret'?

My question as well. It's not Gaetz.

neonzx wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:05 pm

qbawl wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:03 pm Who is the General referring to at the end of his comments as a fellow 'Green Beret'?

My question as well. It's not Gaetz.

They explained this on Nicolle Wallace: no, it wasn't Gaetz, it was someone else on the committee was was indeed a green beret. I didn't catch the name.

Is it me or did the General seem to get even a little more steamed after Matt gave that smirk (thwack!) and shook his head?

qbawl wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:03 pm Who is the General referring to at the end of his comments as a fellow 'Green Beret'?

I presume Michael Waltz (FL-6(R)), a Green Beret who had searched for Berghdal. (And also supported the efforts to undo the 2020 election.)

“And then Rep. Mike Waltz, R-Fla., a National Guard colonel and Green Beret, went off about the discussion of critical race theory at West Point, in an academic setting. He said cadets had recently attended a voluntary talk on “white rage.”
In response, Army Gen. Mark Milley delivered a monologue, colored by his meticulous enthusiasm for U.S. history, that will no doubt be etched in his legacy.”

“Top general fires back at 'offensive' criticism of military being 'woke'”
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/2 ... oke-495703

qbawl wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:03 pm Who is the General referring to at the end of his comments as a fellow 'Green Beret'?

Quote from https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ry-is-woke

Milley’s impassioned retort came after Representatives Matt Gaetz and Michael Waltz, a Green Beret veteran, brought up concerns that critical race theory is detrimental to the U.S. military. Waltz held up a seminar handout from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point on “Understanding Whiteness and White Rage” that he said 100 cadets were taught.

much ado wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:26 pm

qbawl wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:03 pm Who is the General referring to at the end of his comments as a fellow 'Green Beret'?

Quote from https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ry-is-woke

Milley’s impassioned retort came after Representatives Matt Gaetz and Michael Waltz, a Green Beret veteran, brought up concerns that critical race theory is detrimental to the U.S. military. Waltz held up a seminar handout from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point on “Understanding Whiteness and White Rage” that he said 100 cadets were taught.

Considering that crt has only had a recent revival, since pre-election in 2020 and pushed by Republicans when I read a Wikipedia article correctly, there is no way that such a "theory" could have had time to get incorporated into formal teaching at any military educational facility.

General Milley

I thought he was referring to Gaetz, but I looked at Gaetz's wiki page and he has the typical Chickenhawk level of Military Service - zero.

Resume18 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:50 pm Yeah, keep shaking your head there Matty; you just got owned.

Gaetz was surprised to be bitch slapped like that.

LM K wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:24 pm

Resume18 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:50 pm Yeah, keep shaking your head there Matty; you just got owned.

Gaetz was surprised to be bitch slapped like that.

When he gets home, Matty's gonna make Nestor wear one of these & give him a spanking.

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:55 pmConsidering that crt has only had a recent revival, since pre-election in 2020 and pushed by Republicans when I read a Wikipedia article correctly, there is no way that such a "theory" could have had time to get incorporated into formal teaching at any military educational facility.

From Waltz's letter, I infer it was a topic during a seminar ... presented by a guest lecturer:

So we've gone from "unvetted guest lecturer goes rogue" to "ARMY TOO WOKE."

Waltz's letter also suggests a CRT book was used in a political science class. (The writing is less than clear.) This Federalist article (n.b.: NOT "The" Federalist Society) reports that the West Point Superintendent acknowledged that CRT was taught in one class. And:

From this I infer there is an optional seminar that discusses race, gender, and sexuality. It is completely unsurprising that a college-level class devoted to that topic would discuss CRT; it would be surprising if it didn't.

It is also completely unsurprising that a political science program would have optional classes in race, gender, and sexuality studies. Especially to discuss how those topics might be relevant to leading an increasingly diverse army.

You normally need to go to a disreputable pool hall in New Orleans to see a pimp slapping of that quality.

neonzx wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:05 pm

qbawl wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:03 pm Who is the General referring to at the end of his comments as a fellow 'Green Beret'?

My question as well. It's not Gaetz.

Saw a segment on this on CNN/New Day this morning. This might clear it up.

A top US general hit back against Republican criticism and defended Pentagon diversity efforts.

“When I served active duty, you were not [Republican or Democrat,]” Rep. Chrissy Houlahan says. “It’s really a tragedy ... on the part of many Republicans to divide us in that way”

Hey,
@mattgaetz
, see those stripes on Gen Milley’s right sleeve? Each one represents 6 months in combat. SecDef Austin has more, but they aren’t on his suit. You really want to do this?

I think Matty should prove his manly tough credentials and challenge the good General to a wrestling match.

Matt Gaetz tweeted that the FBI should be defunded, then deleted it. He's still being probed by the bureau.

Controversial Florida congressman Matt Gaetz tweeted that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) should be defunded, then deleted his tweet a minute later.

"If Democrats want to defund the police, they should start with the FBI," wrote Gaetz on Wednesday.

The tweet was caught by nonprofit Propublica's Politwoops, a platform that tracks deleted tweets from politicians.

Jim wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:25 am Matt Gaetz tweeted that the FBI should be defunded, then deleted it. He's still being probed by the bureau.

Controversial Florida congressman Matt Gaetz tweeted that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) should be defunded, then deleted his tweet a minute later.

"If Democrats want to defund the police, they should start with the FBI," wrote Gaetz on Wednesday.

The tweet was caught by nonprofit Propublica's Politwoops, a platform that tracks deleted tweets from politicians.

Gee, I wonder why.

As far as I understand it Marx and Engels were both pretty much “standard” racists for their time. What are people referring to when they say CRT is “Marxist inspired”? (I know various “Communist” parties/movements have opposed/exploited race, particularly in capitalist countries).

Uninformed wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:38 am As far as I understand it Marx and Engels were both pretty much “standard” racists for their time. What are people referring to when they say CRT is “Marxist inspired”? (I know various “Communist” parties/movements have opposed/exploited race, particularly in capitalist countries).

There is a massive archive of Six-Degrees-of-Marxism word salad in the law libraries* on Earth 2. Think "Obama is a Marxist because...." I'm sure they're reusing that.

Uninformed wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:38 am As far as I understand it Marx and Engels were both pretty much “standard” racists for their time. What are people referring to when they say CRT is “Marxist inspired”? (I know various “Communist” parties/movements have opposed/exploited race, particularly in capitalist countries).

It is their half a century (at least) race mixing is communism thing. For the right, communism is bad and race-mixing is bad, so race-mixing is communism. When the government makes laws they don't like, it's communism. If they have laws banning others from schools and drinking fountains, that's freedom.

The guy in the middle of that top picture is General Mike Flynn proving the existence of time travel.

p0rtia
There is a massive archive of Six-Degrees-of-Marxism word salad in the law libraries* on Earth 2. Think "Obama is a Marxist because...." I'm sure they're reusing that.

Nodding.

I love this.

( Is there Bacon on the salad?)

"Everything I don't like is communism" has been a fairly consistent trope in American politics going back to the first red scare.