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King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:54 am
by AndyinPA
It's not like they don't have enough of them.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:04 pm
by RVInit
Kriselda Gray wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:35 am
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:12 am Camilla is recycling!!! Good for her!!! :biggrin:
Yeah, I thought that was good, and apparently a conscious part of why she chose to do it this way.
That was my first thought as well. Good for her to reuse. I assumed it was part of what has been reported as King Charles wanting to streamline royal expenditures. That is a good thing.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:47 pm
by noblepa
I suppose that, if you like Camilla, or at least don't hate her, you can look at it as her wanting to be frugal about the coronation and honoring Britain's royal past, as well as Charles' grandmother.

If you do hate her, as many people do, you probably see it as her usurping the memory of the late Queen, and of trying to finagle her way into the upper reaches of the monarchy, which she doesn't deserve.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:20 pm
by sad-cafe
agree the hag is a weasel

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:42 pm
by much ado
Okay, let me ask this. Who deserves to be British royalty and why?

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:49 pm
by sugar magnolia
sad-cafe wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:20 pm agree the hag is a weasel
What makes her a hag and/or weasel?

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:00 pm
by Sam the Centipede
I read somewhere an assertion that Charles at first had said that he wanted a slimmed down coronation but he has quietly moved towards demanding peak pomp for his big day when a man in a clown suit gives him a golden hat.

Also some raised eyebrows at a retail suggestion that hoi polloi do a day off volunteering in their communities during the coronation period – something like "so you want us to work for free as well as pay for your expensive party?"

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:07 pm
by much ado
much ado wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:42 pm Okay, let me ask this. Who deserves to be British royalty and why?
I guess I am feeling negative about the monarchy. I wonder why the UK needs one. Every year it seems more and more anachronistic. The way the UK economy is going, they may eventually find it difficult to justify supporting a monarchy.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:10 pm
by Kriselda Gray
much ado wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:07 pm
much ado wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:42 pm Okay, let me ask this. Who deserves to be British royalty and why?
I guess I am feeling negative about the monarchy. I wonder why the UK needs one. Every year it seems more and more anachronistic. The way the UK economy is going, they may eventually find it difficult to justify supporting a monarchy.
I wonder what the cost for supporting the monarchy is versus how much it brings in via royalty interested tourism. I believe they are the biggest tourist attraction the UK has.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:30 pm
by AndyinPA
I'm pretty sure the tourism money brings in more than it costs. And I think we're talking billions.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:36 pm
by much ado
Kriselda Gray wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:10 pm
much ado wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:07 pm
much ado wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:42 pm Okay, let me ask this. Who deserves to be British royalty and why?
I guess I am feeling negative about the monarchy. I wonder why the UK needs one. Every year it seems more and more anachronistic. The way the UK economy is going, they may eventually find it difficult to justify supporting a monarchy.
I wonder what the cost for supporting the monarchy is versus how much it brings in via royalty interested tourism. I believe they are the biggest tourist attraction the UK has.
Yes, that is certainly true.

I found this article discussing the cost/benefit of maintaining a monarchy.

The British Monarchy Is Better for Taxpayers Than You Might Think

But remember when reading this article that the monarchy pays no inheritance tax on its vast holdings.

For commoners...
The standard Inheritance Tax rate is 40%. It’s only charged on the part of your estate that’s above the threshold. [£500,000 at most]
UK government page on inheritance tax: How Inheritance Tax works: thresholds, rules and allowances

This hardly seems fair.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:38 pm
by Patagoniagirl
I'm just a gonna say it. I despise Camila. She is a society grubbing climber. She had an ongoing affair with a married man. She had no respect for Dianna or her sons. That said, Charlie is the biggest fucking asshole creep, and he disgusts me more than Camilla.

Now, would anyone like to hear what I really think?

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:41 pm
by AndyinPA
Patagoniagirl wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:38 pm I'm just a gonna say it. I despise Camila. She is a society grubbing climber. She had an ongoing affair with a married man. She had no respect for Dianna or her sons. That said, Charlie is the biggest fucking asshole creep, and he disgusts me more than Camilla.

Now, would anyone like to hear what I really think?

Sure. Let er rip! :lol:

Actually, my opinion isn't much different.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:48 pm
by much ado
I found this article from last September that explains the monarchy's inheritance tax issue in some detail.

No, King Charles III won't pay any inheritance tax on his massive gain

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:33 pm
by Kendra
Patagoniagirl wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:38 pm I'm just a gonna say it. I despise Camila. She is a society grubbing climber. She had an ongoing affair with a married man. She had no respect for Dianna or her sons. That said, Charlie is the biggest fucking asshole creep, and he disgusts me more than Camilla.

Now, would anyone like to hear what I really think?
:stamp:

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:23 pm
by sad-cafe
Kendra wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:33 pm
Patagoniagirl wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:38 pm I'm just a gonna say it. I despise Camila. She is a society grubbing climber. She had an ongoing affair with a married man. She had no respect for Dianna or her sons. That said, Charlie is the biggest fucking asshole creep, and he disgusts me more than Camilla.

Now, would anyone like to hear what I really think?
:stamp:
yes

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:45 pm
by Frater I*I
Patagoniagirl wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:38 pm I'm just a gonna say it. I despise Camila. She is a society grubbing climber. She had an ongoing affair with a married man. She had no respect for Dianna or her sons. That said, Charlie is the biggest fucking asshole creep, and he disgusts me more than Camilla.

Now, would anyone like to hear what I really think?
Good...goooodd....feel the hate flow through you... :twisted:

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:52 am
by Gregg
AndyinPA wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:30 pm I'm pretty sure the tourism money brings in more than it costs. And I think we're talking billions.
You're right, it's not even close. In actual fact, the Monarchy pays for itself, not just indirectly through tourism, but directly through the Crown Estates which generate a few quid on the side, all of which the Crown has turned over to Parliament since George III.

And I am a shameless Royalist. It's good for the country to have some institution that is purely symbolic, has for all intents no power whatsoever and at least a dozen or so people, give or take, who have the good of the country at heart without having to be the terrible people elected politicians have to be, or even worse the terrible people not elected politicians tend to be.

As long as they shut up and smile, and look good in a uniform, I say "God Save the King".

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:49 am
by MN-Skeptic
:shrug:

I lost interest in the English royalty back when Diana divorced Charles. At that point, I figured the English could keep them. I really didn't care for their drama or the gossip about them. I have better things to do with my time.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:42 am
by Gregg
My first experience in England many years ago was wandering into the parade following The Trooping of the Colour, I was within about 15 feet of HM The Queen and I totally get the whole pomp and ceremony thing. It really is something.

And isn't nice to have some of the Idle rich who's actual job is doing things for others, opening libraries and such?

I mean our idle rich are Elmo and the Kardashians, so they're not so bad.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:06 am
by Ben-Prime
Gregg wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:52 am
AndyinPA wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:30 pm I'm pretty sure the tourism money brings in more than it costs. And I think we're talking billions.
You're right, it's not even close. In actual fact, the Monarchy pays for itself, not just indirectly through tourism, but directly through the Crown Estates which generate a few quid on the side, all of which the Crown has turned over to Parliament since George III.

And I am a shameless Royalist. It's good for the country to have some institution that is purely symbolic, has for all intents no power whatsoever and at least a dozen or so people, give or take, who have the good of the country at heart without having to be the terrible people elected politicians have to be, or even worse the terrible people not elected politicians tend to be.

As long as they shut up and smile, and look good in a uniform, I say "God Save the King".
Concur. And I'm a recovering Libertarian. I still concur.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:02 am
by RTH10260
STOP THE PRESS!
King Charles Provides Update on Queen Camilla's Health Condition

Carly Silva
Sat, February 18, 2023 at 12:11 AM GMT+1

Buckingham Palace announced earlier this week that the Queen Consort tested positive for COVID-19.

King Charles III is letting the public know that Queen Camilla is on the mend.



https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/king-ch ... 46596.html
(original: Parade)

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:19 am
by Frater I*I
Ben-Prime wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:06 am :snippity:

Concur. And I'm a recovering Libertarian. I still concur.
Better than being a recovering fascist like me...

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:22 pm
by AndyinPA
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ir-uk-home
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been asked by the royal family to vacate their UK home, Frogmore Cottage.

A spokesperson for Harry and Meghan said a request was made for the couple to give up the 17th-century country house, which is close to Windsor Castle in Berkshire.

It has been reported that the move, likely to be viewed as antagonistic weeks after the release of Harry’s autobiography Spare, was sanctioned by King Charles.
Seems odd timing with the coronation coming up.

King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:10 pm
by Suranis
AndyinPA wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:22 pm https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ir-uk-home
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been asked by the royal family to vacate their UK home, Frogmore Cottage.

A spokesperson for Harry and Meghan said a request was made for the couple to give up the 17th-century country house, which is close to Windsor Castle in Berkshire.

It has been reported that the move, likely to be viewed as antagonistic weeks after the release of Harry’s autobiography Spare, was sanctioned by King Charles.
Seems odd timing with the coronation coming up.
They want to give it to Andrew. They want where Prince Andrew is living, but Andrew has a 70 year lease on where he and Fergie are living, so they cant boot him out. They have to give him somewhere else to live. So booting out the Megan show is the easiest, least controversial solution.