Falsehoods Unchallenged Only Fester and Grow
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The 2018 midterms show that isn't always the case.RVInit wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 8:03 pm What is it about history that clearly shows that Democrats do not vote in mid-term elections, while Republicans come out in droves that makes anyone think we have a snowball's chance in hell of keeping the House? The Senate? We barely have that. It'll be gone too. Sorry, but unless something miraculous happens that makes the large majority of part time voters realize how fucken stupid they are to sit out mid-terms, I'm just not seeing it. We are fucked.
Well I think little green men (and women) crawl out of Karen's Fanny every night and tell her what to do. The gold standard demands an investigation!KAREN FANN: I don't care if you're in Arizona or any state across the nation. If we have those kind of doubts, we owe it to them to answer their question. This will be the basis of a gold standard.
I ain't confirming or denying anything, but I was in New Hampshire in June last year...covfefe wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:19 amYou're totally glossing over the whole Venezuela/Hugo Chavez angle, gotta fold that in somehow too!woodworker wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 11:11 pm Clearly it was a folding machine made in China, paid for Soros and installed by Pelosi and the Squad. Amirite?
We now Cater!fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:25 am Can Fogbow start an audit firm? I feel like there's money to be made off credulous state legislatures.
northland10 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 8:30 pm I got poo-poo'd over the last couple of years for being to Pollyannaish. Well, Biden is President and both houses are Democratic so I will stick to my optimism (I actually did not expect the Senate to flip).
The party that holds the Presidency has had a tendency to lose ground in an off-year election (1982, 1986, 1990, 1994, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018, etc.). 1998 was not included as the impeachment probably helped Clinton, and 2002 was, well the year after 9-11.
Even if the GOP were to win back Congress, all they would do is a whole lot of nothing and they cannot make laws without Biden's okay. As for messing up the Presidential election system, they can only mess with the meeting to confirm the Electoral vote, and despite some GQP folks playing objections and an actual insurrection, they still followed the Constitution.
Exactly. The GQP doesn't see the insurrection as a failure because it didn't overthrow the election, it was a failure because it happened at the wrong time at the wrong place. I have no doubt if those people stormed the GA state legislature the day before Kemp certified our electoral votes those craven bootlicking curs would have passed a bill to give the electors to Zee Furher and Kemp would have happily signed it. And thus how democracy dies...
The conservative Washington Times, a noted purveyor of conspiracy theories, didn't mince words in criticizing the spectacle of a partisan election "audit' -- to placate Donald Trump -- in Maricopa County, AZ.
"'Hoping something sticks': Arizona election audit promises more intrigue than answers," read the headline on a Saturday piece at the newspaper's website.
"The ongoing audit of the 2020 election in Arizona has the state's Republican leaders at each other's throats and their disputes over the process are raising doubts about the outcome of the high-tech recount," the paper reported.
The Times was not alone among leading conservative information sites in shying away from Trump's obsession. The Arizona audit has received scant coverage at FoxNews.com and Newsmax.com -- likely because Arizona Republicans are allowing the even-battier OANN to livestream the festivities -- and other right-wing sources have also seemed unimpressed.
"The Madness of the Maricopa Election Audit," blared a headline Friday at the National Review. "The election results in Arizona's largest county have been certified and authenticated multiple times. This audit effort has been pure folly."
Even the agitators at Breitbart.com have been circumspect, eschewing their customary red-meat screeching and picking up AP News stories on the audit instead.
The National Review piece -- one of three critical of the audit in recent weeks, with none in support -- was authored by Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer, a Republican elected to that post in November. The article was carried until the "Elections" tab and not identified as a guest column.
Richer offer the conservative audience an analogy to an IRS audit of an American who does not cheat or lie on taxes:
And the most telltale sign of how skeptically the conservative media view the Arizona circus is how the Times ended its analysis. It quoted Matt Bernhard, a research engineer at VotingWorks, a non-partisan, non-profit voting technology company:
"Mr. Bernhard said the problem is from what he's seen, the auditors in Arizona are in over their head and 'based on their lack of expertise, aren't capable of finding problems if they are there.
Exactly. Republican voters are not likely to reelect the very people who stood in the way of the coup. Things are going to get far uglier.Gregg wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 2:17 amnorthland10 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 8:30 pm I got poo-poo'd over the last couple of years for being to Pollyannaish. Well, Biden is President and both houses are Democratic so I will stick to my optimism (I actually did not expect the Senate to flip).
The party that holds the Presidency has had a tendency to lose ground in an off-year election (1982, 1986, 1990, 1994, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018, etc.). 1998 was not included as the impeachment probably helped Clinton, and 2002 was, well the year after 9-11.
Even if the GOP were to win back Congress, all they would do is a whole lot of nothing and they cannot make laws without Biden's okay. As for messing up the Presidential election system, they can only mess with the meeting to confirm the Electoral vote, and despite some GQP folks playing objections and an actual insurrection, they still followed the Constitution.
It was a dress rehearsal, they can never, ever be trusted again.
Thankful every day that the #AZAudit isn't offering DONUTS! The 699th is loyal, but...Gregg wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 2:00 amWe now Cater!fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:25 am Can Fogbow start an audit firm? I feel like there's money to be made off credulous state legislatures.
You'll recall that these three supported Donald Trump’s 2020 election-fraud lie by signing a letter urging members of Congress to object to Pennsylvania’s electoral votes going to Joe Biden. Among other things.Maricopa Arizona Audit
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On Wednesday, a PA Delegation consisting of State Senator Doug Mastriano, State Senator Cris Dush, and State Rep. Rob Kauffman will visit the AZ Capitol to meet with members of the AZ Legislature, and then tour the AZ Audit to receive a brief from the forensic audit team.
Halfway done, a third shift of volunteers? I mean, I'm familiar with third shift, but I'm struggling to believe they have a full staff of volunteers willing to work midnight to 8am. Maybe it's a different usage of third shift? And what happened to hiring people, is that off the table? Protect the grift money, don't spend it?Maricopa Arizona Audit
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Update: The third shift of the Maricopa election audit starts on June 1st. Thank you to our AZ volunteers!
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Great election audit news! We surpassed counting 50% of the Maricopa ballots last week. The audit continues!
I am assuming they actually mean 'third wave' or such. It would not surprise me if grifters have never had to actually work third shift and thus do not know what it actually means.covfefe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:45 am Halfway done, a third shift of volunteers? I mean, I'm familiar with third shift, but I'm struggling to believe they have a full staff of volunteers willing to work midnight to 8am. Maybe it's a different usage of third shift? And what happened to hiring people, is that off the table? Protect the grift money, don't spend it?
CN said they were hiring employees for weeks. Upon return, they said they put hiring "on hold".Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:51 am Volunteers...yep, that's who I'd want auditing a presidential election. SNL could do a great skit with that.
They're gonna set this country straight!AZ Audit War Room
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The Pennsylvania Legislative Delegation is currently meeting with Members of the Arizona Legislature to discuss election integrity in the United States.
They weren't allowed to destroy *fake* Biden ballots, as they had been led to believe?LM K wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:33 pm I don't believe that CN is at the 50% mark. It took them 3 weeks to count 300k. They did train more volunteers, but they didn't hire anyone. They haven't once, to my knowledge, filled all the counting tables at one time.
A third shift is needed because current volunteers aren't showing up as often as needed.
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CN had to hire a new firm for counting the paper ballots. The new company began controlling the count on May 24. Wake, the previous company, had actual election experience. They wouldn't extend their contract past May 14.
It's impossible that CN has counted 700k ballots in 5 days.
After meeting with the Republicans of the Arizona Legislature, the Pennsylvania team will head next to Poland to meet with the Parliament of Poland, then on to meet with Turkey's Grand National Assembly of Turkey and final stop to meet with coup generals who overthrew the newly democratically elected government of Myanmar.AZ Audit War Room
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The Pennsylvania Legislative Delegation is currently meeting with Members of the Arizona Legislature to discuss election integrity in the United States.
Atticus Finch wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:29 pmAfter meeting with the Republicans of the Arizona Legislature, the Pennsylvania team will head next to Poland to meet with the Parliament of Poland, then on to meet with Turkey's Grand National Assembly of Turkey and final stop to meet with coup generals who overthrew the newly democratically elected government of Myanmar.AZ Audit War Room
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The Pennsylvania Legislative Delegation is currently meeting with Members of the Arizona Legislature to discuss election integrity in the United States.
