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Even more testable:
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WTF is with the English flags, not sure if I've seen that before. They looking to rejoin the UK now that they are out of the EU?
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Those are mysteries I won't attempt to devine. Gibson et al march to their own drum. Thankfully the voters of WA declined his offer to represent them in DC.
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Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
"...well regulated..."
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[sarc] shhhhhh.....[/sarc]roadscholar wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:50 am "...well regulated..."
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Wait, I thought his "fiancee's" name was Kelly Luckey? $155,000 for a "yacht" seems rather implausible.Kendra wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:01 pm https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/inv ... t-missing/ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (WFLA) – U.S. Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida has sailed into a new controversy, claiming money wired to close the sale on a St. Petersburg yacht his fiancée had agreed to buy “went missing.”
According to a spokesperson for the Republican, he and his fiancée Ginger Luckey were “targeted by malicious actors” during the purchase process of a St. Petersburg yacht. Follow-up questions about the transaction and clarification of the statement have not been answered.
About a week after news broke about the investigation into Gaetz’s potential connection to the sex-trafficking case involving former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg, the Republican was spotted with Luckey on a 41-foot yacht docked at Pier 4 at the St. Petersburg Municipal Marina.
ETA: I looked. I've seen some older 41' boats in that price range, but it's not the norm.
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Yeah, I don't know much about boats, but $155K sounds like a nice fishing boat. Yacht is doing a lot of work there.
Maybe "Ginger" is her Venmo name.
Maybe "Ginger" is her Venmo name.
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https://www.fox44news.com/news/yacht-ow ... z-fiancee/Yacht owner details failed deal involving Rep. Gaetz, fiancée
ST. PETERSBURG Fla. (WFLA) – The owner of the yacht almost sold to the fiancée of U.S. Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida claims the craft’s name was changed without his “knowledge or approval,” and before the deal was closed.
The sale of the $155,000 sailboat to Ginger Luckey fell through in late April, with a Gaetz spokesperson claiming the money “went missing” when the couple allegedly was “targeted by malicious actors.”
“Rep. Gaetz and Ms. Luckey were recently the target of a financial crime,” the spokesperson told WFLA. “Which federal law enforcment is both aware of and actively pursuing.”
Rep. Gaetz, fiancée claim money for St. Pete yacht deal ‘went missing’
Gaetz’s camp would not say which agency is involved. An FBI spokesperson said the agency could neither confirm nor deny the existence of an investigation.
The now-former owner of the 41-foot yacht wrote in a May Facebook post that he listed the boat — named “Ol Pappy” — with a brokerage firm in February, and it was under contract in March.
Several owners of boats docked near Ol Pappy at the St. Petersburg Municipal Marina said they saw Gaetz and Luckey on the sailboat during the inspection process, known as the survey.
John Golly said the yacht was known on Pier 4 for its distinctive full-color logo on her stern.
“Very high-end job, whoever did it. Very nice-looking logo,” Golly said. “Very memorable.”
According to the owner’s post, he found out “two days before closing without my knowledge or approval” that his memorable logo was removed and replaced by the name Thirsty.
He wrote that the hailing port on the boat was also changed from St. Pete to Niceville, a city in Gaetz’s district. Gaetz went to Niceville High School.
The owner also said the prospective buyers had a “stay on my boat” and refueled it without his approval in the days before the scheduled closing.
About a week after the deal collapsed, Luckey posted a picture from a boat with St. Petersburg in the background.
The owner’s post said half of the downpayment money held in escrow is in dispute and the owner said he has hired an attorney.
Gaetz’s spokesman hinted some of the claimed missing money has been recovered, saying, “The parties are working to recover the rest of the monies.”
The yacht was eventually sold to a new buyer in a transaction that closed May 21, according to the brokerage firm that listed the vessel.
Gaetz’s spokesperson did not return requests for comment about the claims of the owner, who has not offered any comment outside of his post about the transaction.
The survey was conducted about a week after news broke about the investigation into Gaetz’s potential connection to the sex-trafficking case involving former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg.
I don't remember if this was discussed upthread, but Luckey's brother was a co-founder of Oculus, which was sold for like $2B.
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So not a $155,000 boat, but half of a ($300,000) down payment.covfefe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:48 pmhttps://www.fox44news.com/news/yacht-ow ... z-fiancee/Yacht owner details failed deal involving Rep. Gaetz, fiancée
ST. PETERSBURG Fla. (WFLA) – The owner of the yacht almost sold to the fiancée of U.S. Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida claims the craft’s name was changed without his “knowledge or approval,” and before the deal was closed.
The sale of the $155,000 sailboat to Ginger Luckey fell through in late April, with a Gaetz spokesperson claiming the money “went missing” when the couple allegedly was “targeted by malicious actors.”
“Rep. Gaetz and Ms. Luckey were recently the target of a financial crime,” the spokesperson told WFLA. “Which federal law enforcment is both aware of and actively pursuing.”
Rep. Gaetz, fiancée claim money for St. Pete yacht deal ‘went missing’
Gaetz’s camp would not say which agency is involved. An FBI spokesperson said the agency could neither confirm nor deny the existence of an investigation.
The now-former owner of the 41-foot yacht wrote in a May Facebook post that he listed the boat — named “Ol Pappy” — with a brokerage firm in February, and it was under contract in March.
Several owners of boats docked near Ol Pappy at the St. Petersburg Municipal Marina said they saw Gaetz and Luckey on the sailboat during the inspection process, known as the survey.
John Golly said the yacht was known on Pier 4 for its distinctive full-color logo on her stern.
“Very high-end job, whoever did it. Very nice-looking logo,” Golly said. “Very memorable.”
According to the owner’s post, he found out “two days before closing without my knowledge or approval” that his memorable logo was removed and replaced by the name Thirsty.
He wrote that the hailing port on the boat was also changed from St. Pete to Niceville, a city in Gaetz’s district. Gaetz went to Niceville High School.
The owner also said the prospective buyers had a “stay on my boat” and refueled it without his approval in the days before the scheduled closing.
About a week after the deal collapsed, Luckey posted a picture from a boat with St. Petersburg in the background.
The owner’s post said half of the downpayment money held in escrow is in dispute and the owner said he has hired an attorney.
Gaetz’s spokesman hinted some of the claimed missing money has been recovered, saying, “The parties are working to recover the rest of the monies.”
The yacht was eventually sold to a new buyer in a transaction that closed May 21, according to the brokerage firm that listed the vessel.
Gaetz’s spokesperson did not return requests for comment about the claims of the owner, who has not offered any comment outside of his post about the transaction.
The survey was conducted about a week after news broke about the investigation into Gaetz’s potential connection to the sex-trafficking case involving former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg.
I don't remember if this was discussed upthread, but Luckey's brother was a co-founder of Oculus, which was sold for like $2B.
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Seems we know why the deal fell thru : Gaetz thought he owned the vessel before papers had been signed
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Actually, that seems high for a 20 year old Beneteau Oceanis 413. They're typically in the $100K range. Either this one is much newer (then it isn't a 413 - they're from the late 1990s/early 2000s), or it's really, really nice. The dinghy and davits probably add $10~20K, again, depending on condition.filly wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:09 pmWait, I thought his "fiancee's" name was Kelly Luckey? $155,000 for a "yacht" seems rather implausible.Kendra wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:01 pm https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/inv ... t-missing/ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (WFLA) – U.S. Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida has sailed into a new controversy, claiming money wired to close the sale on a St. Petersburg yacht his fiancée had agreed to buy “went missing.”
According to a spokesperson for the Republican, he and his fiancée Ginger Luckey were “targeted by malicious actors” during the purchase process of a St. Petersburg yacht. Follow-up questions about the transaction and clarification of the statement have not been answered.
About a week after news broke about the investigation into Gaetz’s potential connection to the sex-trafficking case involving former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg, the Republican was spotted with Luckey on a 41-foot yacht docked at Pier 4 at the St. Petersburg Municipal Marina.
ETA: I looked. I've seen some older 41' boats in that price range, but it's not the norm.
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I dunno somerset . My friends just have Hinkleys.
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No, I don't think so. The articles says the boat was listed at $155K, and that's at the high end for that particular boat. Maybe Gaetz/Luckey tried to put $75K into escrow.sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:03 pm
So not a $155,000 boat, but half of a ($300,000) down payment.
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somerset wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:51 amNo, I don't think so. The articles says the boat was listed at $155K, and that's at the high end for that particular boat. Maybe Gaetz/Luckey tried to put $75K into escrow.sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:03 pm
So not a $155,000 boat, but half of a ($300,000) down payment.
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Matt Gaetz Deletes Lee Harvey Oswald Tweet After Top Conservatives Tricked
https://www.newsweek.com/matt-gaetz-del ... ed-1596372
https://www.newsweek.com/matt-gaetz-del ... ed-1596372
Matt Gaetz has deleted a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald after he and several other conservative figures were tricked into retweeting a picture of President John F. Kennedy's assassin on Memorial Day.
Journalist Ken Klippenstein trolled prominent Republicans, including Florida Congressman Rep. Gaetz, American Conservative Union Chairman Matt Schlapp and conservative commentator Dinesh D'Souza into sharing the picture of the infamous killer.
Klippenstein tweeted at the conservative figures and pretended Oswald, who was pictured wearing his army uniform, was a family member.
He asked Rep. Gaetz: "Congressman, my grandpa's a big fan of yours and is a veteran, he would be thrilled if you could RT this photo of him for Memorial Day. Here he is as a young Private First Class."
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I haetz Gaetz, but this is BS. I would probably fall for it. At least once. I suppose he should be checking everything in triplicate before he retweets at this point, and it is kinda funny, but I feel like it is hitting below the belt for a cheap laugh.Volkonski wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:29 am Matt Gaetz Deletes Lee Harvey Oswald Tweet After Top Conservatives Tricked
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Matt Gaetz has deleted a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald after he and several other conservative figures were tricked into retweeting a picture of President John F. Kennedy's assassin on Memorial Day.
Journalist Ken Klippenstein trolled prominent Republicans, including Florida Congressman Rep. Gaetz, American Conservative Union Chairman Matt Schlapp and conservative commentator Dinesh D'Souza into sharing the picture of the infamous killer.
Klippenstein tweeted at the conservative figures and pretended Oswald, who was pictured wearing his army uniform, was a family member.
He asked Rep. Gaetz: "Congressman, my grandpa's a big fan of yours and is a veteran, he would be thrilled if you could RT this photo of him for Memorial Day. Here he is as a young Private First Class."
Plenty of real things to string him up on, we don't need to manufacture controversies.
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Gaetz was not the only fool who got punked. Matt Schlapp retweeted this as well. A bunch of morons.
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I suppose there is something to be said for the fact that this is far from the first time something like this happened. Didn't someone have them all retweeting Richard Ramirez or some other serial killer at one point?
Eh, here's an old one: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/ ... tter-prank
Trump retweeting a pic of notorious British serial killers Fred and Rose West.
Vaguely amusing I suppose, but I'm over it.
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It may no longer amuse you but it is a clear demonstration that their tweets are utter horse shit, in case anyone is still on the fence. Morons wading in horse shit.
The punk was initiated by someone who is not a prosecutor nor an investigator, so it's not like precious time and resources are being diverted by this.
The punk was initiated by someone who is not a prosecutor nor an investigator, so it's not like precious time and resources are being diverted by this.
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And I suppose it can always be said, if they fall so easily for this, what else will they fall for that is more serious?filly wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 am It may no longer amuse you but it is a clear demonstration that their tweets are utter horse shit, in case anyone is still on the fence. Morons wading in horse shit.
The punk was initiated by someone who is not a prosecutor nor an investigator, so it's not like precious time and resources are being diverted by this.
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Mother Mary on a bisquit. My alma mater. Damnit. Things musta changed in fifty years. I don't recall yacht marinas. OTOH, we lived on a 40 footer tucked into various bayous to avoid mooring costs.
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Ken's done that punk before, remember it around the time DL2XIT was calling our troops losers. His targets fell for it then too also.
Funny stuff about the boat. Of course they'd call it Thirsty. Sounds like they deserve each other.
Funny stuff about the boat. Of course they'd call it Thirsty. Sounds like they deserve each other.
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