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Yep ...
Bridges is going to appeal. And she's raised $137k for legal fees.

I don't understand her guinea pig argument. While it is true that pharma companies have yet to accumulate all fomal testing, the vaccines have been administered to millions of "test candidates" without any major incidents under the emergency approval.

The plaintiff's attorney is such a lovely dude. Loves to play in the far-right cesspool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Woodfill

northland10 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:49 pm The plaintiff's attorney is such a lovely dude. Loves to play in the far-right cesspool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Woodfill

. He’s a dirtbag. Was chair of Harris County GOP. Loses lots of cases because he’s not in this to practice law.

Probably works like Inappropriate Larry. Winning isn't the object, publicity is. And publicity is paying a good salary right now.

Bridges is no longer employed by Houston Methodist. She also says that others are no longer employed.

“We’re OK with this decision. We are appealing. This will be taken all the way to the Supreme Court. This is far from over. This is literally only the beginning,” Bridges said.

Bridges said she already has another nursing job lined up. She said even more former employees are ready to join her fight.

Bridges and Woodfill are fos. This issue will soon die out and Bridges hasn't raised nearly enough money to appeal this to SCOTUS. Woodfill says he's going to file another TX lawsuit.

I doubt Woodfill is working pro bono.

And other hospital systems around the country, including in Washington, D.C., Indiana, Maryland, Pennsylvania and most recently New York, have followed Houston Methodist and have also gotten pushback.

Legal experts say such vaccine requirements, particularly in a public health crisis, will probably continue be upheld in court as long as employers provide reasonable exemptions, including for medical conditions or religious objections.

The University of Pennsylvania Health System, the largest private employer in Philadelphia, and the NewYork-Presbyterian hospital system have likewise indicated employees who aren’t fully vaccinated would lose their jobs.
Both Bridges, who has worked 6½ years at the medical-surgical in-patient unit at Houston Methodist’s hospital in the suburb of Baytown, and Shepherd, who has worked 7½ years in the labor and delivery unit at a Methodist hospital in Houston, say they are not anti-vaccine, are not conspiracy theorists and are not making a political statement.

“To me, what this ultimately boils down to is freedom,” Shepherd said.

Wait. I thought this was about not wanting to be injected with a vaccine because it's still under EAU by the FDA.

You have freedom! Freedom to find another job!

Lawsuits have been filed. One case includes a former worker at a New Mexico county jail, Isaac Legaretta, who claims he was improperly demoted and faced retaliation after refusing to get the shot. Legaretta contends that the county manager’s mandatory vaccination directive violates the federal Emergency Use Authorization statute, which requires that people be given the option to refuse a drug under that status. Another suit, in California, relies on the same statute.

‘Other Employers Out There’

“You’ve got somebody whose government employer says you’ve got to take this vaccine or you’re fired,” said Legaretta’s attorney, Jonathan Diener. “It doesn’t have FDA approval, it’s experimental at this stage, but if you don’t take this, you’re fired? In my view, that’s not right.”

Dear lawyer. Just because you disagree with laws doesn't change the law. Your lawsuit is bogus in it's basic argument.

The EAU argument is ridiculous. Everyone can refuse the vaccine. The EAU statute states:

FDA must ensure that recipients of the vaccine under an EUA are informed, to the extent practicable given the applicable circumstances, that FDA has authorized the emergency use of the vaccine, of the known and potential benefits and risks, the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown, that they have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine, and of any available alternatives to the product.

No one is forcing employees to be vaccinated. The EAU statute simply states that the FDA must inform people that they can refuse the vaccine. That's it. Employees can say no ... and then find another job. The government isn't tracking citizens, rounding them up, tying them up, and injecting them with the vaccine.

Fucking "at will" employment laws!

Oh look. Republican AZ legislators, the House taking their turn at being dumbasses.

As opposed to a state university in a relatively sane state, where this policy is not contentious.

For Fall 2021, UMass will require all undergraduate and graduate students who wish to live, learn or conduct research on campus or access campus resources to be fully vaccinated prior to the beginning of the fall semester. In addition, all faculty and staff are strongly encouraged and recommended to get vaccinated prior to the beginning of the fall semester. There are a variety of ways to find a vaccine appointment:

- Vaccinations are available at the UMass Vaccine Clinic, located on the lower level of the Campus Center, on a walk-in basis or by appointment. For walk-in hours or to schedule an appointment, visit umass.edu/coronavirus/vaccine.
- Preregister to be notified when it's your turn to schedule an appointment at one of seven mass vaccination locations: Hynes Convention Center in Boston, Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, Reggie Lewis Center in Boston, DoubleTree Hotel in Danvers, Eastfield Mall in Springfield, Natick Mall, and the former Circuit City in Dartmouth.
- Use VaxFinder to search for appointments at pharmacies, healthcare providers and other community locations.

https://www.umass.edu/uhs/covid-19-vaccine

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:03 am ...

YouTube has removed a video and suspended Republican US Senator Ron Johnson from posting for seven days after violating the platform’s Covid-19 misinformation policies.

The senator promoted use of the drugs hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin to treat Covid-19, despite the platform’s policy that prohibits “content that promotes prevention methods that contradict local health authorities” or the World Health Organization.

“YouTube’s arrogant Covid censorship continues,” he said on Friday. “How many lives will be lost as a result? How many lives could have been saved with a free exchange of medical ideas? This suppression of speech should concern every American.”

Sure, let's all freely exchange "medical" ideas. How about we use leeches, or go back to blood letting. Or inhaling silver?

Anti-vaxxers are weaponizing Yelp to punish bars that require vaccine proof
Negative spam reviews are destroying bars and restaurants as they attempt to re-open safely.

On the first hot weekend of the summer, Richard Knapp put up a sign outside Mother’s Ruin, a bar tucked in Manhattan’s SoHo neighborhood. It had two arrows: one pointing vaccinated people indoors, another pointing unvaccinated people outdoors.

The Instagram post showing the sign (above) quickly went viral among European anti-vaxxers on Reddit. “We started receiving hate mail through the Google portal,” Knapp says, estimating he’d received about a “few dozen” emails: “I’ve been called a Nazi and a communist in the same sentence. People hope that our bar burns down. It’s a name and shame campaign.” It wasn’t just the emails. Soon, his bar started receiving multiple one-star reviews on Yelp and Google Reviews from accounts as far away as Europe.

Spamming review portals with negative ratings is not a new phenomenon. Throughout the pandemic, the tactic has also been deployed to attack bars and restaurants that enforced mask-wearing for safety. As pandemic restrictions have lifted, businesses like Mother’s Ruin have sought to ensure that safety by requiring proof of vaccination using state-sponsored apps like New York’s Excelsior Pass, vaccine passports, or simply flashing vaccine cards at the door — practices that have instigated a second surge of spam reviews.

These spam one-star reviews can be extremely damaging. The default mode for viewing reviews is in chronological order, from newest to oldest, which means a spam attack places fake reviews up top, making the most recent reviews that much more influential if you’re the victim of a concerted campaign.

Local bar in NYC gets anti-vax spam reviews from Europe. Blech.

Message from yer pro-disease AZ gubernatorial candidate...

Just like "fake news", they're trying to co-opt "pro-science".

covfefe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:54 pm Message from yer pro-disease AZ gubernatorial candidate...

Just like "fake news", they're trying to co-opt "pro-science".

Good luck with that, Lake.

Colleges and universities have, forever and ever, required various vaccines. The newest required non-covid vaccine? Meningococcal vaccines.

Meningococcal disease kills ... painfully. Those who survive may have significant neurological damage. The bacteria spreads like wildfire amongst teens and young adults.

Courts have spoken. Schools of all grades can require vaccinations.

covfefe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:54 pm Message from yer pro-disease AZ gubernatorial candidate...

Just like "fake news", they're trying to co-opt "pro-science".

With the current goings on at A$$U, they would be better off checking everybody for STD's before they can show up on campus.

Sounds like the football team is gonna get the death penalty the way its going what with hiding recruits in stadium suits during recruiting dead times (due to Covid), coaches banging recruits moms, and the head coach approving payouts. I'm not sure there is enough popcorn in the galaxy for this one.

But don't hold your breath, it takes the NCAA 10 years just to get out of bed.

I flied to Maui today. Saw a dozen or so idiot anti vaxxers protesting in Kihei with stupid signs. I flipped them off.

Notaperson wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:19 am

My friends were at that show (lined up at 5 am to get tickets) and said Rickey Schroder was there,too.

Between this and Rittenhouse, Ricky Schroeder sure turned out to be an unpleasant fellow. Silver spoons indeed!

Vaccination requirements blocked at Arizona Universities:

Governor Ducey Issues Executive Order To Protect Access To Arizona Public Universities
News Release June 15, 2021

PHOENIX — Governor Doug Ducey today issued an Executive Order protecting access to Arizona’s public universities and community colleges for all students.

Under the Executive Order, students cannot be mandated to take the COVID-19 vaccine or submit COVID-19 vaccination documents. Students also cannot be mandated to be tested or wear masks in order to participate in learning.

The Executive Order provides exemptions for students participating in medical or clinical training. It does not prevent institutions of higher learning from encouraging vaccinations, providing testing or having voluntary mask usage, consistent with guidance from the Centers for Disease Control.

“The vaccine works, and we encourage Arizonans to take it. But it is a choice and we need to keep it that way,” said Governor Ducey. “Public education is a public right, and taxpayers are paying for it. We need to make our public universities available for students to return to learning. They have already missed out on too much learning. From K-12 to higher education, Arizona is supporting in-person learning.”

Governor Ducey will be working with legislative leadership and Senator T.J. Shope to codify today’s Executive Order into law.

Arizona has administered 6,201,598 COVID-19 vaccine doses to date, with 3,006,771 Arizonans fully vaccinated against the virus.

https://azgovernor.gov/governor/news/20 ... ona-public

No mask reqs, no vax reqs, no testing reqs, period. They're hellbent on creating a superspreader, if'n they can. Actual order here: https://azgovernor.gov/sites/default/fi ... 021-15.pdf

Response from two reps and senator that represent the district ASU is in (spoiler, they are unpleased):

Preparing the grounds for the next hotspot of the Delta variant, I see..

This executive order will have devastating effects on higher ed in AZ.

Students truly worked wonders during the pandemic. With no notice, they were moved to remote learning. Their work study jobs disappeared. They had to find alternative housing if they couldn't move home. Their access to libraries and tech centers disappeared. Grad schools stopped all admissions for the 2021-2022 academic year. Graduating seniors had online graduations. And students watched friends and family die.

Ducey's bullshit guarantees that classes will have to go remote without warning. Students are pissed that they received no discount on tuition. Rightly so.

Faculty and staff are going to go insane over this. Those universities and colleges in AZ with unions are bringing the fight today. Unions are certainly surveying their members about these changes.

Ducey's executive order guarantees that fewer students can be in each classroom. This will require that more class sections be opened, IF possible. Most of those sections will have to be remote. Colleges and universities will have to pay a lot in overtime if they can't find new adjuncts to teach.

Oh, and there's the issue of quarantine! Anyone exposed to an infected person for 15 mins will have to go into quarantine. Students won't be able to go to work. Classes will have to be remote for 2 weeks min.

Reopening colleges and universities has been a logistical nightmare. My college still hasn't reopened (we will in Sept). K-12 is still doing hybrid learning. K-12 in my district opened in April. (OR has been one of the strictest states in the country for reopening.)

Students and faculty want to be back in physical classrooms! Ducey just made that a lot harder.

https://azgovernor.gov/governor/news/20 ... ona-public

Governor Doug Ducey today issued an Executive Order protecting access to Arizona’s public universities and community colleges for all students.

Under the Executive Order, students cannot be mandated to take the COVID-19 vaccine or submit COVID-19 vaccination documents. Students also cannot be mandated to be tested or wear masks in order to participate in learning.

The Executive Order provides exemptions for students participating in medical or clinical training. It does not prevent institutions of higher learning from encouraging vaccinations, providing testing or having voluntary mask usage, consistent with guidance from the Centers for Disease Control.

“The vaccine works, and we encourage Arizonans to take it. But it is a choice and we need to keep it that way,” said Governor Ducey. “Public education is a public right, and taxpayers are paying for it. We need to make our public universities available for students to return to learning. They have already missed out on too much learning. From K-12 to higher education, Arizona is supporting in-person learning.”

Is Ducey going to force colleges and universities from continuing to mandate MMR vaccination?

ASU requires students to be vaccinated for MMR. If you don't have your vaccination records, you can submit lab test results.

Option 1 - Provide proof of two measles vaccinations (one of which must be dated after 1979), first dose given at age 12 months or later. Second dose given at least 28 days after the first.

Option 2 - Provide a copy of lab test results showing positive immunity to Rubeola (Measles) lgG or MMR lgG.

Submit the MMR Immunization Form (PDF) along with your proof of vaccination or lab results showing positive immunity to Measles. You will continue to see a MMR Immunization hold under "Priority Tasks" on your My ASU account until your measles information is received and verified. Processing time is within 2 business days.

If a group wants to sue over the executive order, the fact that universities require vaccinations for other diseases raises a difficult issue for Dulcy.

Most colleges/Universities with on campus housing require one or more vaccines.

MMR
Northern Arizona State University
University of AZ
AZ State University


And Meningococcal A
Grand Canyon University
Arizona Western College*
Ottawa University

And Hepatitis B
Emory Riddle Aeronautical University

*Mandatory covid

This isn't a comprehensive list.

Ducey has a fight on his hands.

He hedges it as an experimental vax, and Covid as not being bad enough for mandatory vax. I can't select the text, but here are the sections:

Excuse me, “not bad enough”?
Right, like the US is overreacting?
The entire WORLD shut down, you moron. When was the last time you remember that happening?

I hope AZ loses a bigly percentage of students.
Ducey is a dummy.

So when is the FDA going to get off their ass and fully approve the vaccine(s)? Until they do, this shit is going to continue to be brought up.

Agreed. I really don't know what the FDA is playing at. Well over half the US adult population has received the Vacc, you idiots. I call that a successful test of whether its safe for human use.