Fogbow

Estiveo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:53 pm Treason has a very narrow legal definition, and Tuberville's actions, reprehensible & damaging as they are, don't satisfy it, in my IANAL opinion.

For starters, there needs to be a formal declaration of war against...somebody.

In the United States Senate, a hold is a parliamentary procedure permitted by the Standing Rules of the United States Senate which allows one or more Senators to prevent a motion from reaching a vote on the Senate floor.

The original intent of these sections was to protect a senator's right to be consulted on legislation that affected the senator's state or in which a senator had a great interest. The ability to place a hold would allow that senator an opportunity to study the legislation and to reflect on its implications before moving forward with further debate and voting.

According to Congressional Research Service research, holds were not common until the 1970s, when they became more common due to a less collegial atmosphere and an increasing use of unanimous consent to move business to the floor.

Holds, like filibusters, can be defeated through a successful cloture motion. However, the time required to bring around a cloture vote often allows fewer than 40 senators to block unimportant legislation when the majority is not willing to force the vote. The countermeasure to excessive holds may be increased determination on the part of the leadership to bring up measures despite holds, but the delay involved in cloture votes constrains the leader's ability to do this.

Foggy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:14 am But in this great land of ours, the founding fathers were damned careful to limit throwing around the word treason. It is the only crime specifically defined in the Constitution.

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski wrote: Tuberville explains why he voted against Chair of Joint Chiefs: “I heard some things that he talked about race and things that he wanted to mix into the military. Our military is not an equal opportunity employer. It’s like a football team I coached …”

Acyn @Acyn wrote: Tuberville: They made everything else woke from their education to the FBI, the CIA.. In terms of Wokeness in the military, I singlehandedly am going to fight this by not letting admirals and generals be able to be promoted.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:54 pm I try not to judge a state based on their representation, but I swear the a sizable portion of Alabamians must be ignorant racist MFers to elect this asshole. He's horrible.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:54 pm Asshat traitor says what?
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/stat ... 54556?s=20

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski wrote: Tuberville explains why he voted against Chair of Joint Chiefs: “I heard some things that he talked about race and things that he wanted to mix into the military. Our military is not an equal opportunity employer. It’s like a football team I coached …”

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:27 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:54 pm Asshat traitor says what?
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/stat ... 54556?s=20

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski wrote: Tuberville explains why he voted against Chair of Joint Chiefs: “I heard some things that he talked about race and things that he wanted to mix into the military. Our military is not an equal opportunity employer. It’s like a football team I coached …”

Says the guy who never served ...

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:08 pm

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:27 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:54 pm Asshat traitor says what?
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/stat ... 54556?s=20

Says the guy who never served ...

Somehow, I suspect that everything is like a football team he coached to this guy. He's got one gear.

Senator Mark Kelly @SenMarkKelly wrote: In a room of veterans, some with decades of service, Senator Tuberville said “there’s no one more military” than him.

Meanwhile, he’s threatening our national security and harming military families by blocking military promotions.

It just doesn’t make any sense.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:04 pm Kelly and the other combat veterans need to take Tuberville behind the woodshed for a little talk.

Biden’s Wins @BidensWins wrote: Everyone needs to see this. President Biden blasted Tommy Tuberville today: “The strongest military in the history of the world… accused of being weak and ‘woke’? Frankly, these extremists have no idea what the hell they’re talking about.”

David Gura @davidgura wrote: Why did @SenTuberville vote against the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs?

“I heard some things he talked about, about race and things that he wanted to mix into the military," he told @BloombergTV. "Our military is not an equal opportunity employer."

Seth Abramson @SethAbramson wrote: Is it worth noting here that Senator Tuberville was intimately involved in the planning for January 6 and was in touch with Trump’s team on Insurrection Day?

He’s not just any MAGA senator—he’s an *insurrectionist* MAGA senator.

So yes, his actions must be seen in that light.

Simon Rosenberg @SimonWDC wrote: Should we start talking about what Tuberville is doing as a continuation of the Jan 6th insurrection?

He's trying to assume Presidential level powers over the military, dictating staffing and policy. It's an upending of the Constitutional order.

https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/statu ... 2867415383

MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE SENATE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING NOMINATIONS, ALL NOMINATIONS PLACED ON THE SECRETARY'S DESK IN THE AIR FORCE, ARMY, MARINE CORPS AND NAVY, THAT THE NOMINATIONS BE CONFIRMED EN BLOC, THE MOTIONS TO RECONSIDER BE CONSIDERED MADE AND LAID UPON THE TABLE WITH NO INTERVENING ACTION OR DEBATE, THAT NO FURTHER MOTIONS BE IN ORDER TO ANY OF THE NOMINATIONS AND THAT THE PRESIDENT BE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFIED OF THE SENATE'S ACTIONS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. THE QUESTION OCCURS ON THE NOMINATIONS EN BLOC. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO. THE AYES APPEAR TO HAVE IT. THE AYES DO HAVE IT. THE NOMINATIONS ARE CONFIRMED EN BLOC.

The Senate on Saturday approved, by unanimous consent, all nominations for military promotions on the Secretary's desk for the Air Force, Army, Marine Corps, and Navy.

According to the Senate Record, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., asked for the unanimous consent motion "with no intervening action or debate, that no further motions be in order to any of the nominations," and that President Joe Biden be "immediately notified of the Senate's actions."

The Senate Record lists hundreds of names of the promoted military members.

CONFIRMATIONS
Executive nominations confirmed by the Senate September 30, 2023:
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
BRENDAN CARR, OF VIRGINIA, TO BE A MEMBER OF THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION FOR A TERM OF FIVE YEARS FROM JULY 1, 2023.
GEOFFREY ADAM STARKS, OF KANSAS, TO BE A MEM- BER OF THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION FOR A TERM OF FIVE YEARS FROM JULY 1, 2022.
IN THE AIR FORCE
AIR FORCE NOMINATION OF DAVID M.P. SPITLER, TO BE COLONEL.
AIR FORCE NOMINATIONS BEGINNING WITH HEATHER A. BODWELL AND ENDING WITH CHRISTIAN L. WILLIAMS, WHICH NOMINATIONS WERE RECEIVED BY THE SENATE AND APPEARED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ON JULY 25, 2023.
AIR FORCE NOMINATIONS BEGINNING WITH EGLON AUBYN ANGEL AND ENDING WITH THOMAS H. WEST, WHICH NOMINATIONS WERE RECEIVED BY THE SENATE AND APPEARED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ON JULY 25, 2023.
AIR FORCE NOMINATION OF MARTIN J. SLOVINSKY, TO BE COLONEL.
AIR FORCE NOMINATION OF JASON E. LITTLE, TO BE COLONEL.
AIR FORCE NOMINATION OF JOANNE M. WHITLOCK, TO BE MAJOR.
AIR FORCE NOMINATION OF FREDDY R. ORELLANA, TO BE MAJOR.
AIR FORCE NOMINATION OF MELISSA L. HULL, TO BE COLONEL.
AIR FORCE NOMINATION OF ALICIA C. PALLETT, TO BE LIEUTENANT COLONEL.
AIR FORCE NOMINATION OF JOSHUA N. YOUNG, TO BE MAJOR.
IN THE ARMY
ARMY NOMINATION OF ROBERT M. MCTIGHE, TO BE COLONEL.
ARMY NOMINATION OF EDWARD B. SAUTER, TO BE COLONEL.
ARMY NOMINATION OF JOAN E. SOMMERS, TO BE COLO- NEL.