Fogbow

Current tally:

Jeffries: 212
McCarthy: 203
Biggs: 10
Jordan: 6
Donalds: 1
"Present"/other/not voting: 2
(Vacant seat): 1

I think 6 voted for Jordan.

Just an FYI -

"For completeness," McCarthy in 2021 received 209 votes.

So.... uh... Red Wave?

Neither Jordan or Biggs hold sufficient for a productive alliance with McCarthy.
Gaetz and Boebert splitting their vote is suspicious.

8% of the caucus thinks it has the right to control the caucus and the entire Congress. It shows how they view democracy.

northland10 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:13 pm 8% of the caucus thinks it has the right to control the caucus and the entire Congress. It shows how they view democracy.

The problem with not talking about personalities is that this is all so personal. Charlie Dent, former Republican congressman:

"What can he give these folks that he hasn't already tried to give them? I don't think there's anything he can give them. It will never be enough. It seems so personal. They don't — they just don't want him so I don't think there's anything he can do. No concession he can make. There's no more appeasement that he can do to win some of these folks over."

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... c9799abd54

I wonder what amount of horse-trading it would take for a moderate Republican and some buddies to team up with Democrats ("Hey Dems, elect me Speaker and you'll get these concessions...")

Yeah, but, the Dems know Repubs lie.

Matt Gaetz is nominating Jim Jordan.

Sex partners?

Yes … so Gaetz is switching sides… to give Jordon the power to broker.

#NotAllRepublicans

Not only is Gaetz supporting Gym Jordan, he's tearing Kevin McCarthy apart. He said Kevin "sold pieces of himself" to get votes and "maybe the right person is someone who doesn't want it". This is delicious. Even Fox News is covering it live Bret Baier is referring to the 1856 Speaker vote and saying how GOP voters are unhappy that after voting for Republicans, they can't even get their "house in order". Bret also points out how horrible it looks that Hakeem Jeffries is getting more votes "in a Congress that just became a GOP majority". What a disaster for Kevin and the GOP.

I'm concerned about Scalise getting the position.

This all reminds me of the Tea Party over a decade ago.

Biggs votes switching to Jordan. Already enough to deny speakership to McCarthy on 2d ballot. What a shitshow.

Putin's (and probably Saudi's as well) goal of creating dissension to weaken American resolve plays out again.

Brian Kilmeade on Fox News: "This is a great day for the Democrats"

MeidasTouch @MeidasTouch 4m

Brutal. Kevin McCarthy just LOST the SECOND VOTE for Speaker of the House.

He once again does not have the votes.

This is like watching the sausage being made behind the scenes without having to watch the sausage being made.