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chancery wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:44 pm

noblepa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:52 pm You just know that, even in a courtroom that doesn't normally allow cameras, the networks and probably Trump himself, will insist that the trial be televised.

For better or worse -- better, IMO -- it doesn't work like that in New York State. N.Y. Civil Rights Law § 52.

The primary issue on this appeal is whether Civil Rights Law § 52, which bans audiovisual coverage of most courtroom proceedings, violates the Federal or State Constitution. We agree with the Supreme Court and the Appellate Division that there is no First Amendment or New York Constitution, article I, § 8 right to televise a trial.

Courtroom Television Network LLC v. New York, 5 N.Y.3d 222 (2005).
Note: In the NYS judicial system, "Supreme Court" refers to a trial court.

Sunrise wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:32 am

chancery wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:44 pm

noblepa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:52 pm You just know that, even in a courtroom that doesn't normally allow cameras, the networks and probably Trump himself, will insist that the trial be televised.

For better or worse -- better, IMO -- it doesn't work like that in New York State. N.Y. Civil Rights Law § 52.

The primary issue on this appeal is whether Civil Rights Law § 52, which bans audiovisual coverage of most courtroom proceedings, violates the Federal or State Constitution. We agree with the Supreme Court and the Appellate Division that there is no First Amendment or New York Constitution, article I, § 8 right to televise a trial.

Courtroom Television Network LLC v. New York, 5 N.Y.3d 222 (2005).
Note: In the NYS judicial system, "Supreme Court" refers to a trial court.

Except knowing how DFO operates, we can probably expect him to have his lawyers appeal all the way up to SCOTUS, where he hopes he can count on at least five votes. We should have learned by now that he stops at nothing if he’s infuriated, which he certainly will be with this lawsuit.

slq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:25 pm IIRC, this was a grand jury subpoena? (I'll admit to general confusion about the multitude of information, so please correct me if I'm wrong.) If so, the result will be a grand jury indictment or a no bill. What happens after that depends on what the grand jury does.

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:38 am If Trump faces a New York petit jury, either civil or criminal, IMHO he will likely lose. New Yorkers voted agin' him and protested whenever he visited while in his former occupation. They will be motivated to "do justice" the New York way, depending upon the evidence, of course.

zekeb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:10 am He's no longer a NY resident either. He won't get any sympathy from a NY jury.

covfefe wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:18 pm NY never liked Trump. As hard as he tried, he could never make it into the elite circles. And he wasn't a player in the real estate game here either. He made a couple good deals, but a lot of them were crap, as evidenced by his serial bankruptcies. The thing he was really successful at was building his brand. Nobody important cared. Boohoo poor Trumpkins. Too bad he had to take it out on the whole country.

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:38 am If Trump faces a New York petit jury, either civil or criminal, IMHO he will likely lose. New Yorkers voted agin' him and protested whenever he visited while in his former occupation. They will be motivated to "do justice" the New York way, depending upon the evidence, of course.

Frater I*I wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:11 pm

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:38 am If Trump faces a New York petit jury, either civil or criminal, IMHO he will likely lose. New Yorkers voted agin' him and protested whenever he visited while in his former occupation. They will be motivated to "do justice" the New York way, depending upon the evidence, of course.

I think that involves cement...

Gregg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:41 pm

Frater I*I wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:11 pm

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:38 am If Trump faces a New York petit jury, either civil or criminal, IMHO he will likely lose. New Yorkers voted agin' him and protested whenever he visited while in his former occupation. They will be motivated to "do justice" the New York way, depending upon the evidence, of course.

I think that involves cement...

I thought that was a New Jersey thing.

Donald Trump's premier New York City real estate holdings — once the foundation of his fortune and fame — have increasingly become a problem for the former president.

Part of the reason is COVID-19, which has taken a toll on many landlords. Yet the hit to Trump's New York real estate operations is harder than the rest of the industry has experienced, and it comes after years of financial underperformance by the Trump Organization properties in some of the city's swankiest neighborhoods.

Indeed, last year marked the fifth year in a row in which the four most prominent Trump-owned buildings in Manhattan, including the Fifth Avenue Trump Tower made famous by "The Apprentice" TV show, missed lenders' earnings expectations, according to a CBS MoneyWatch review of publicly available documents.

COVID-19 has made the finances of the four buildings deteriorate further. As of January, three of the four Manhattan buildings had been flagged by mortgage-payment processors because of their worsening financial shape. That compares to one in four commercial loans industrywide that have been put on similar watch lists.

noblepa wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:02 pm.

Some experts think that many of his assets are overvalued. I believe that that is a big part of the investigations currently going on in NY. He is alleged to have understated property values for tax purposes and overvalued the same properties when asking for a mortgage. That is either tax fraud or lending fraud, or both.

If, as some believe, his properties are overvalued and heavily mortgaged, they may actually be underwater, that is, have a negative equity.