Re: Coronavirus: Vaccines
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:01 pm
This is why I've missed you, Sam!!!!!!!
Falsehoods Unchallenged Only Fester and Grow
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US employees of United Airlines have until Sept. 27 to either get vaccinated or to apply for an exemption.
The exempt workers will either be reassigned or go on temporary leave until it's safe, "but they won't be in front of customers after Sept. 27," CEO Scott Kirby says.
I don't think they've addressed that yet, but, since there are so many of us who did get the Moderna vaccinations, I'm sure they will be issuing a recommendation for us, whether to wait for the Moderna approval or to get the current Pfizer booster.
OrlyLicious @Orly_licious 5m
#COVID #AntiVaxxers claiming #ReligiousExemptions: Fetal cell lines were also used for Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Aspirin, Tums, Lipitor, Motrin, Ibuprofen, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, Preparation H, Claritin, Zoloft & Azithromycin. Be consistent.
It is very ok. Any of the vaccines used in the US or Europe will work well as a booster after any other vaccine. A booster dose of a vaccine acts by presenting the immune system again with the apparent threat to which it previously mounted a response, in this case the spike protein.
Thank you.Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:55 pmIt is very ok. Any of the vaccines used in the US or Europe will work well as a booster after any other vaccine. A booster dose of a vaccine acts by presenting the immune system again with the apparent threat to which it previously mounted a response, in this case the spike protein.
There's none of the earlier vaccine left in your body, you're not topping up a reserve of vaccine or something like that. The booster persuades your memory B-cells and memory T-cells to continue and enhance their activity against the apparent threat.
For legally eagally folk who like others to be precise in their legal terminology, here's an opportunity to be precise in immunological terminology!The recommendation of an additional vaccine dose [i.e. a third dose] for patients with severely weakened immune systems differs from what is called a "booster dose", which is a refresher vaccine to those who have had a response to the vaccine. Although some countries such as Israel and the United States have offered a refresher to large sections of the population, the knowledge base for this is still very limited. There is a need for more knowledge here.
Most of the reasoning is (I believe) based on the level of circulating antibodies in the blood, which is relatively easy to measure, but immunologists are aware that it is not clear how well antibody levels are a good correlate or measure of protection, especially against severe disease.No adverse reactions have been observed after the third dose in these patient groups [immunocompromised and elderly] other than those previously known after the first and second doses.
And we return to boosters…A rare side effect in the form of inflammation of the heart, called myocarditis, has been reported after using mRNA vaccines, especially in younger people. The side effect mainly occurs after the second dose and is temporary, so most people recover within a month.
If Sudafed is made from fetal cell lines, that means they are all going to have to give up crystal meth.orlylicious wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:56 pm Well how about this, really interesting article. Had no idea so many common meds use fetal cell lines. Another excuse bites the dust. https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/0 ... exemption/
OrlyLicious @Orly_licious 5m
#COVID #AntiVaxxers claiming #ReligiousExemptions: Fetal cell lines were also used for Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Aspirin, Tums, Lipitor, Motrin, Ibuprofen, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, Preparation H, Claritin, Zoloft & Azithromycin. Be consistent.
https://twitter.com/Orly_licious/status ... 878893575
My understanding is cause the Pfizer vaccine was the first on the market and intially used to vaccinate the seniors and high-risk people, those applications have reached the end of the first six months "guaranteed" to be most effective. Also too I understand that the Pfizer shot is seriously less effective against the Delta variant. All the reason to offer a booster to the first recipients. I guess once there is a fast, easy and cheap way to evaluate the remaining protection the boost can get applied selectively.