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Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:00 pm
by NewMexGirl
I don’t understand why this is considered such bombshell news, at least so far as Gaetz is concerned. We already were aware that Gaetz crossed state lines with an underaged girl, or at least there was a strong supposition that he had done so. Re the pardon, it’s not a good look for Stone (what is?) and Greenberg is a knave and a fool, but where is the new info/evidence that’s going to bring down Gaetz? Is Greenberg even a valuable/usable witness for a Gaetz prosecution?
As always, I would appreciate one of our fine Fogbow attorneys weighing in and explaining what I’m missing.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:17 pm
by Gregg
I'll be happy to tune in.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:51 am
by woodworker
NewMexGirl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:00 pm
I don’t understand why this is considered such bombshell news, at least so far as Gaetz is concerned. We already were aware that Gaetz crossed state lines with an underaged girl, or at least there was a strong supposition that he had done so. Re the pardon, it’s not a good look for Stone (what is?) and Greenberg is a knave and a fool, but where is the new info/evidence that’s going to bring down Gaetz? Is Greenberg even a valuable/usable witness for a Gaetz prosecution?
As always, I would appreciate one of our fine Fogbow attorneys weighing in and explaining what I’m missing.
Supposition of violating the Mann Act (crossing state lines with a minor for sex) is not evidence. Now, if the docs are validated, you have Greenbert, a co-conspirator, putting down on paper a description of the conspiracy and an admission of guilt by Greenberg. This is evidence. Additionally, if the former occupants of the White House, etc. claim that there were never any conversations with Stone about such a pardon, you might have a criminal case for fraud against Stone -- Stone attempting to fraudulently induce Greenberg to give Stone 250K. This also makes it more likely that Greenberg is going to flip on everyone, all the republicans for whom he acted as a pimp.
Moar popcorn please.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:16 am
by Foggy
Yeah, the stuff released shows that the girl who was underage lied about how old she was. Which is totally shocking, because everyone knows that teenage girls never lie, they're pure and innocent until their 18th birthday.
And as soon as Greenberg and Gaetz learned her real age, they scolded her
and had nothing more to do with her until she 18.
Confession time (you may recall I confessed to this on the old forum): My first true love, a wonderful, intelligent, amazing woman who I will never forget, was 17 when we started having sex. We stayed together for 3.5 years, and I didn't pay her a nickel for the sex, but I did take her across state lines, because we lived in suburban Maryland and everybody went to the big mall in Tysons Corner, Virginia and to various places in our nation's capital.
And even worser than Matt Gaetz, I knew for sure that she was only 17, because we discussed it at length - we had to take various precautions to make sure her parents never found out about the sex.
For some odd reason, I don't feel guilty in the least about that. To the contrary, I'm still damned proud that I was somehow able to convince such an awesome lady to fall in love with me. She became an RN and then a PA.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:37 am
by Patagoniagirl
Yabbut, were you 30+ years old?
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:45 am
by pipistrelle
Patagoniagirl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:37 am
Yabbut, were you 30+ years old?
My question too, but I was gonna say almost 40?
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:47 am
by Foggy
Oh, no ma'am. I had just turned 21.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:18 am
by Kendra
https://www.thedailybeast.com/joel-gree ... with-minor
A confession letter written by Joel Greenberg in the final months of the Trump presidency claims that he and close associate Rep. Matt Gaetz paid for sex with multiple women—as well as a girl who was 17 at the time.
“On more than one occasion, this individual was involved in sexual activities with several of the other girls, the congressman from Florida’s 1st Congressional District and myself,” Greenberg wrote in reference to the 17-year-old.
“From time to time, gas money or gifts, rent or partial tuition payments were made to several of these girls, including the individual who was not yet 18. I did see the acts occur firsthand and Venmo transactions, Cash App or other payments were made to these girls on behalf of the Congressman.”
The letter, which The Daily Beast recently obtained, was written after Greenberg—who was under federal indictment—asked Roger Stone to help him secure a pardon from then-President Donald Trump.
A series of private messages starting in late 2020—also recently obtained by The Daily Beast—shows a number of exchanges between Greenberg and Stone conducted over the encrypted messaging app Signal, with communications set to disappear. However, Greenberg appears to have taken screenshots of a number of their conversations.
“If I get you $250k in Bitcoin would that help or is this not a financial matter,” Greenberg wrote to Stone, one message shows.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:52 am
by Foggy
I did see the acts occur firsthand ...
Eww. That part really is creepy.
Sex is not a spectator sport.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:01 pm
by SuzieC
It's weird that Roger Stone lands smack dab in the middle of every Republican crime conspiracy.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:07 pm
by neonzx
Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:52 am
I did see the acts occur firsthand ...
Eww. That part really is creepy.
Sex is not a spectator sport.
Um, of course not. That's why p0rn doesn't exist.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:07 pm
by fierceredpanda
Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:52 am
I did see the acts occur firsthand ...
Eww. That part really is creepy.
Sex is not a spectator sport.
Sorry, but I must:
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:12 pm
by Kendra
SuzieC wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:01 pm
It's weird that Roger Stone lands smack dab in the middle of every Republican crime conspiracy.
Shirley it's all a coincidence.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:13 pm
by Foggy
Well yeah, who am I kidding? If'n sex ain't a spectator sport, there goes the pr0n industry!
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:05 pm
by LM K
fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:07 pm
Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:52 am
I did see the acts occur firsthand ...
Eww. That part really is creepy.
Sex is not a spectator sport.
Sorry, but I must:
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:38 pm
by bob
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:45 pm
by NewMexGirl
woodworker wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:51 am
Supposition of violating the Mann Act (crossing state lines with a minor for sex) is not evidence. Now, if the docs are validated, you have Greenbert, a co-conspirator, putting down on paper a description of the conspiracy and an admission of guilt by Greenberg. This is evidence. Additionally, if the former occupants of the White House, etc. claim that there were never any conversations with Stone about such a pardon, you might have a criminal case for fraud against Stone -- Stone attempting to fraudulently induce Greenberg to give Stone 250K. This also makes it more likely that Greenberg is going to flip on everyone, all the republicans for whom he acted as a pimp.
Moar popcorn please.
Thank you, Woodworker.
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:29 pm
by Chilidog
There's a difference between porn and watching Matt Gaetz's pasty....
I can't even finish the thought..
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:38 pm
by Flatpoint High
Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:52 am
I did see the acts occur firsthand ...
Eww. That part really is creepy.
Sex is not a spectator sport.
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Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 2:26 am
by Luke
Apparently, the model was on SeekingArrangement.com, her screen name is alluded to with a year of birth as part of the name. Have seen it but won't use it. That site is wild, it's a sugar daddy (and a growing sugar momma) site. The whole site is designed around giving money to hot young models, for rent, school or whatever else. If these guys were using SA.com, and sending money on Venmo, chances are they weren't ordering girl scout cookies from them.
It's not a secret what's going on. Hope Nestor doesn't use his real name, he's def bait.
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Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 8:52 am
by Tiredretiredlawyer
Flatpoint High wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:38 pm
Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:52 am
I did see the acts occur firsthand ...
Eww. That part really is creepy.
Sex is not a spectator sport.
26hskd.jpg
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 1:06 pm
by Dr. Ken
So ummm. Someone created this website:
https://www.congressmangaetz.com/post/gaetz-confession
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Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 9:38 pm
by Gregg
Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 10:52 pm
by Suranis
I was horrified to find that Gaetz made an appearance in a 2 parter episode of the TV Series "The Incredible Hulk," in his younger, more attractive days.
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Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban
Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:47 am
by Luke
Woo-hoo! At The Villages. That would be a terrific place for an arrest.
FREE
Date And Time
Fri, May 7, 2021
6:30 PM – 9:00 PM EDT
Location
The Brownwood Hotel & Spa in the Silas/Mizell Ballroom
3003 Brownwood Boulevard
The Villages, FL 32163
United States
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