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noblepa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:42 pm

Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:23 pm The Republican Party is in a death spiral, it might not last past the 2024 election.

With each day the base gets more irrationally radical, pushing away what is left of a right-center membership and making it improbable that they they can ever win any fair elections. Even in red states their power is amplified or even propped up by stupid political tricks that cannot endure. Take Wisconsin, where statewide races are close contests, yet through extreme gerrymandering Republicans' have veto proof majorities in both houses and until this year had the majority of the State Supreme Court that allowed it. When a Liberal was elected to the Supreme Court this year, changing the majority control, Republicans began impeachment proceedings even before she had heard her first case.

Americans are sick of it, sick of the fighting and sick of a party that proves to them every day that yes they can go even lower. The Democrats might have problems, but the Republicans are doomed. Proving once again that everything Trump touches, dies, even 160 year old political parties.

I share your assessment of the current state of what used to be the Republican party. I never thought I would think of the Ronald Reagan/John Behner era as "the good old days".

However, I'm not as sure of the prognosis. People were making similar predictions after Richard Nixon resigned in the wake of the Watergate scandal, but the party bounced back, and not because their policies changed all that much. Peoples' memories of RMN just faded and new personalities came on the scene, such as the aforementioned Reagan and Behner. Tax cuts for the rich and the "Southern Strategy" never left the R's psyche.

The R's may not elect a President for a few election cycles, but they will continue to elect jackasses like emptygee and bobblehead. They will continue to control state legislatures through blatant gerrymandering.

Life will return to normal. The next time we have a recession or high unemployment while a democrat is in the WH, some republican will come along proposing massive tax cuts for the rich as a way to put America back "on the right track". This, even though, you, as an economist, know better than most of us, that the President doesn't have as much direct and immediate control over the economy as many people think he/she does. When the economy is good, the Prez gets to take the undeserved credit for it and when it is bad he/she gets more blame than warranted. But the opposing party will always take advantage of this phenomenon.

Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:18 pm
The reason the GOP is going to die, and it is going to die, is because it's been taken over by the loonies and we are very close to the point where the loonies are not only going to be the only ones left, but they will not tolerate anyone not as loony as them to stay. That is happening and it's going to be a painful and abrupt slap in the face when they realize that not enough people to sustain a viable party are fucking loony and they've run off everyone who isn't. Even then there will be a bunch of them that think the only reason they lost (and lost by historic margins in places where they haven't fixed the conditions to assure they can't lose) is because it was stolen or they didn't have enough flag on their boats and pickup trucks.

much ado wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:26 pm

Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:18 pm
The reason the GOP is going to die, and it is going to die, is because it's been taken over by the loonies and we are very close to the point where the loonies are not only going to be the only ones left, but they will not tolerate anyone not as loony as them to stay. That is happening and it's going to be a painful and abrupt slap in the face when they realize that not enough people to sustain a viable party are fucking loony and they've run off everyone who isn't. Even then there will be a bunch of them that think the only reason they lost (and lost by historic margins in places where they haven't fixed the conditions to assure they can't lose) is because it was stolen or they didn't have enough flag on their boats and pickup trucks.

I agree with Gregg.

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem is expected to endorse former President Donald Trump at a campaign rally in her home state Friday, two sources familiar with the plans tell CNN, fueling speculation about the role the Republican governor may play in his third bid for the White House.

Once a potential 2024 candidate herself, Noem initially inched away from Trump after last fall’s midterm elections and the launch of his latest campaign. She told The New York Times at the time that she didn’t believe the former president offered “the best chance” for the Republican Party in 2024.

However, the South Dakota governor has since changed her tune, opting out of a White House bid and offering support for Trump. But Noem is still angling to be in the 2024 discussion. She’s remained in contact and on good terms with the former president, according to sources familiar with their interactions. Though Noem didn’t attend last month’s first Republican presidential debate, ads touting her state’s low taxes and job openings aired during it and since then on Fox News.

Noem has another connection: Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s former campaign manager and confidant, has advised her since 2020. Lewandowski’s on-again-off-again relationship with the former president has leveled, according to sources, and he now regularly speaks to Trump.

Luke Johnson @Orly_licious 1s
Tom, we keep telling you that the law degree and secret decoder ring you found in your Cracker Jack box were NOT REAL. Haven't you gotten Trump and others in enough trouble with your fractally wrong ULP? Or do you secretly want him to be in jail for the rest of his life?

Trump War Room @TrumpWarRoom wrote: "Tonight, I am announcing that the moment I win the election, I will appoint a special task force to rapidly review the cases of EVERY political prisoner who has been unjustly persecuted by the Biden administration."

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:55 pm Uhhhh, he won't be president the "moment he's elected." That takes a few weeks.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:51 pm

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:55 pm Uhhhh, he won't be president the "moment he's elected." That takes a few weeks.

Does he need to be president to name a special task force to review convictions? Doesn’t seem like it would necessarily require any special powers.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:10 pm

Trump War Room @TrumpWarRoom wrote: "Tonight, I am announcing that the moment I win the election, I will appoint a special task force to rapidly review the cases of EVERY political prisoner who has been unjustly persecuted by the Biden administration."

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:51 pm

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:55 pm Uhhhh, he won't be president the "moment he's elected." That takes a few weeks.

Does he need to be president to name a special task force to review convictions? Doesn’t seem like it would necessarily require any special powers.

much ado wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:39 pm Guys. The purpose of the task force will be to determine which Jan 6 convicts have remained loyal to Trump and have not said negative things about him. Loyal convicts will be pardoned. Disloyal convicts will remain convicted. So sad for them.

Mr brolin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:01 am Errrrr, assuming he gets elected, the J6 have be no value to him then, so why should he pardon any of them...?

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:17 am

Mr brolin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:01 am Errrrr, assuming he gets elected, the J6 have be no value to him then, so why should he pardon any of them...?

It costs him nothing and keeps his “patriot political prisoner” cult happy.

Former President Donald Trump acknowledged in a new interview that, despite receiving counsel from multiple people that the 2020 election was not stolen, he pushed ahead anyway with his false claims to try and overturn the results.

The comments to NBC’s “Meet the Press” directly address a central premise of special counsel Jack Smith’s case against Trump over his efforts to subvert the 2020 election results: that Trump knew the election claims he was making were false after being told by several close aides that he had lost.

“It was my decision, but I listened to some people,” Trump said.

RVInit wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:21 pm If he gets elected he has one big reason to pardon them. They will become the basis of his MAGA Brown Shirt brigade. And they will have a great time cracking heads of RINOs. LGBTQ+, Democrats, Never Trumpers, and anyone else whose head the Orange Pus Bag thinks need cracking.