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US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:37 pm
by Rolodex
"Throwing political opponents behind bars" - Um, he was convicted of a crime. It was capricious, it wasn't arbitrary. And the absolute lack of self awareness of this same crowd chanting "lock her up"....for political reasons.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:38 pm
by raison de arizona
An interesting side note to this:
https://x.com/steve_vladeck/status/1769 ... 05719?s=20
Steve Vladeck @steve_vladeck wrote: Here’s something we haven’t seen since 2014: An “in-chambers” opinion from a #SCOTUS Justice—this one from Chief Justice Roberts denying Peter Navarro’s emergency request to avoid having to report to federal prison tomorrow:
An in-chambers opinion is written by an individual Justice to dispose of an application by a party for interim relief, e.g., for a stay of the judgment of the court below, for vacation of a stay, or for a temporary injunction.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/in-chambers.aspx

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:43 pm
by Rolodex
Who else will be having a bit of tasty schadenfreude with their dinner tonight? Toast yourself that you're not going to prison tomorrow!

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:49 pm
by raison de arizona
Republicans are driving a cottage industry of prison consultants, it would appear.
When Peter Navarro goes to prison, he’ll hear the lions roar

Former Trump White House adviser Peter Navarro hopes to spend his next few months working in air conditioning and sleeping in a dormitory for “elderly” male inmates at a prison next to a zoo.

Navarro, 74, must report to prison on Tuesday after the Supreme Court on Monday afternoon rejected his request for a last-minute reprieve.

He is set to become the first former White House official ever jailed for contempt of Congress when he reports to a minimum-security federal Bureau of Prisons satellite camp in Miami.

“Not only can you hear the lions … you can hear the lions roar every morning,” said Sam Mangel, Navarro’s prison consultant.

“He’s nervous,” Mangel told CNN of Navarro. “Anybody, regardless of the length of their sentence, is going into an unknown world.”

Mangel is part of a cottage industry in the legal world meant to help prepare well-heeled convicts and their families for time behind bars. He said he spoke with Navarro on Monday.
:snippity:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/politics ... index.html

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:54 pm
by Frater I*I
Rolodex wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:43 pm Who else will be having a bit of tasty schadenfreude with their dinner tonight? Toast yourself that you're not going to prison tomorrow!
So interesting thing, lil' ole Frater did 105 days in county, it was like an adult day care center, min sec Club Fed is certainly better than a county jailhouse...

It just goes to show how much of a punk Navarro is, 4 month is only two weeks longer than I did....

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:59 pm
by raison de arizona
Frater I*I wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:54 pm
Rolodex wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:43 pm Who else will be having a bit of tasty schadenfreude with their dinner tonight? Toast yourself that you're not going to prison tomorrow!
So interesting thing, lil' ole Frater did 105 days in county, it was like an adult day care center, min sec Club Fed is certainly better than a county jailhouse...

It just goes to show how much of a punk Navarro is, 4 month is only two weeks longer than I did....
But did you engage a prison consultant? :lol:

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:08 pm
by qbawl
But did you engage a prison consultant? :lol:
Does '3 fingers Louie count?

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:17 pm
by Rolodex
Wait...a "prison consultant"? Is that a thing? Did he really do that?

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:26 pm
by northland10
Luke wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:01 pm Luke Johnson 🇺🇸 @Orly_licious 5m
Supreme Court Justice Roberts rejected Peter Navarro’s last-ditch bid to stay out of prison. FCI Miami tomorrow 3/19/24.

Connie Francis sang it best: "Who's Sorry Now". "You had your way / Now you must pay / I'm glad that you're sorry now" ⚖️


:like:

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:33 pm
by raison de arizona
Rolodex wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:17 pm Wait...a "prison consultant"? Is that a thing? Did he really do that?
Indeed he did, and it probably cost him upwards of ten grand, my googling indicates.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:42 pm
by New Turtle
Lol yes pay them $10K to learn how to play spades and get in line early if you want to use the phone.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:31 pm
by northland10
For completeness, here is the government's response to SCOTUS.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ ... %20USA.pdf

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:51 pm
by raison de arizona
Rigged!
https://twitter.com/realpnavarro/status ... 9837989325
Peter Navarro @RealPNavarro wrote: One of the three DEM judges was on BOTH the panel that received my appeal AND the panel that ruled on the appeal. The odds of this are LESS THAN ONE PERCENT.
Peter Navarro @RealPNavarro wrote: SOME CURIOUS BLACK ROBE MATH
The three panel Appeals Court that denied my release pending appeal were ALL Obama-appointed Democrats. The odds of that are a mere 21%. The draw is supposed to be RANDOM. Do you believe:

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:07 am
by tek
Wait, isn't Navarro allegedly an economist?
Shouldn't he know how statistics work?

Oh, right, Republican. Never mind.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:36 am
by pipistrelle
Desperate not to go to prison. Could have saved the time and money by showing up. Weird.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:52 am
by northland10
pipistrelle wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:36 am Desperate not to go to prison. Could have saved the time and money by showing up. Weird.
The MAGA way is to fight, fight, fight (delay, delay, delay) and more fight, fight, fight. Winning is not as important.

Fighting is winning. Actually succeeding is not as important. Strategic withdrawals are for wimps.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:26 pm
by AndyinPA
Maybe it could turn into a life sentence? :shrug:

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:32 pm
by noblepa
tek wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:07 am Wait, isn't Navarro allegedly an economist?
Shouldn't he know how statistics work?

Oh, right, Republican. Never mind.
I think it was Mark Twain who said "There are lies, damned lies and statistics".

One problem with statistics is that, to someone who doesn't understand how it works, statistics can be made to seem to show just about anything one wants it to show.

Plus, an out and out lie that is seemingly backed up by statistics, can be difficult to debunk, because so many people have a serious lack of understanding of the science.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:48 pm
by Rolodex
I guess media will be there to see Pete rolling up to the pokey? I hope Anarchy Princess made it so she can yell at him one last time.

Does anyone know where he actually lives? Is it FL and that's why he's in prison there? Too bad he didn't draw the one in Pensacola - that's supposedly the "best" fed lock up.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:45 pm
by northland10
He reported, but gave a brief presser in a shopping center parking lot before hand.

Gift
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/19/us/p ... =url-share
At a hastily organized news conference shortly before he was set to check into the Federal Correctional Institution in Miami, a low-security prison next to the Miami-Dade zoo, Mr. Navarro reprised familiar denunciations of the Justice Department and the Biden administration.

Speaking in the parking lot of a commercial plaza, flanked by a pizza store and a pawnshop, he cast blame on the federal trial judge in his case, as well as Mr. Biden and a long list of politicians he said were motivated by hostility toward Mr. Trump.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:00 pm
by raison de arizona
:yankyank:

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:07 pm
by Slim Cognito
Suck it up, Buttercup.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:06 pm
by Frater I*I
Rolodex wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:48 pm :snippity:

Does anyone know where he actually lives? Is it FL and that's why he's in prison there? Too bad he didn't draw the one in Pensacola - that's supposedly the "best" fed lock up.
BoP policy is to house an inmate at a facility [that has the necessary security level] nearest the prisoner's last known address...

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:58 pm
by northland10
Frater I*I wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:06 pm
Rolodex wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:48 pm :snippity:

Does anyone know where he actually lives? Is it FL and that's why he's in prison there? Too bad he didn't draw the one in Pensacola - that's supposedly the "best" fed lock up.
BoP policy is to house an inmate at a facility [that has the necessary security level] nearest the prisoner's last known address...
Are they putting him in FDC Miami due to the short term, or FCI Miami? There is a tennis court FCI Miami. I guess that makes it a club fed. Looking at some of the prior guests and the low security, FCI Miami rather makes sense.

US v Peter Navarro

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:30 pm
by chancery
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1770142393444007938
Josh Marshall
@joshtpm
I’ve gotta a pretty firm rule that I never celebrate people showing up for prison. And it’s because it’s a terrible (which isn’t to say it’s wrong or unnecessary) thing to see, even when it’s right and deserved. But this dude is really straining my system. I mean stfu already.
Justin Baragona
@justinbaragona

Fox News anchor Sandra Smith cuts away from Peter Navarro's speech outside of prison:

"To fact check there, it is no longer an alleged crime... he has obviously been convicted and there was no evidence that would have excluded him, per executive privilege, from testifying.
"


https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1770147103890686296
Josh Marshall
@joshtpm
To follow up on my post about the awfulness of going to prison (even when right, deserved etc.), many people who've done even really really bad things, when they're being faced with the consequences wld really love backsies, another chance, some way out. The nature of this ...

2/ fool's crimes is he had literally years of the justice system (and congress) saying basically, just do this simple easy thing and it all goes away. you can just say, okay, sorry about that. most crimes you can't do that. but here literally years of chances and instead ...

3/ just no i'm going to keep dying on this facially nonsensical hill and for a thorough reprobate (but obviously that's a different matter, some people like reprobates). So like dude, you seemed to really REALLY want to spend 4 months in prison for no reason even though ...

4/ you've dragged and it forever and essentially live blogged the whole thing. Like I actually followed Navarro since long before he was even associated with Trump and even with that I feel like I barely knew who he was before he made his name fighting this one ...

5/ pointless fight. So really, if you must, please just spend 4 months in prison. For once I really can't get to worked up about it.