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Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:00 am
by Sam the Centipede
Ah, just for the money, or is there some obscure reason why meth heads would find catalytic converters especially attractive?
I know little to nothing of methamphetamine or the pastimes and travails of its adherents.
Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:23 am
by pipistrelle
Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:00 am
Ah, just for the money, or is there some obscure reason why meth heads would find catalytic converters especially attractive?
I know little to nothing of methamphetamine or the pastimes and travails of its adherents.
Money
Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:31 am
by Kriselda Gray
Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:00 am
Ah, just for the money, or is there some obscure reason why meth heads would find catalytic converters especially attractive?
I know little to nothing of methamphetamine or the pastimes and travails of its adherents.
I can't remember which, but some part in the catalytic converter is worth a lot if you sell it to the 'right' people. It's like people who are stripping cars and anything else they can of copper wiring. Scrap copper is very valuable. But I don't think it's copper that's in the catalytic converters.
Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:36 am
by jez
Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:31 am
Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:00 am
Ah, just for the money, or is there some obscure reason why meth heads would find catalytic converters especially attractive?
I know little to nothing of methamphetamine or the pastimes and travails of its adherents.
I can't remember which, but some part in the catalytic converter is worth a lot if you sell it to the 'right' people. It's like people who are stripping cars and anything else they can of copper wiring. Scrap copper is very valuable. But I don't think it's copper that's in the catalytic converters.
They're rich in precious metals, such as platinum, palladium, and rhodium. You can get a few hundred dollars for a single converter.
Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:56 am
by Shizzle Popped
jez wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:36 am
Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:31 am
Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:00 am
Ah, just for the money, or is there some obscure reason why meth heads would find catalytic converters especially attractive?
I know little to nothing of methamphetamine or the pastimes and travails of its adherents.
I can't remember which, but some part in the catalytic converter is worth a lot if you sell it to the 'right' people. It's like people who are stripping cars and anything else they can of copper wiring. Scrap copper is very valuable. But I don't think it's copper that's in the catalytic converters.
They're rich in precious metals, such as platinum, palladium, and rhodium. You can get a few hundred dollars for a single converter.
And they can be cut out of the exhaust system in less than 2 minutes.
Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:50 am
by Sam the Centipede
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Thanks for the insights – clearly some Fogfolk have greater knowledge of criminality than do I!
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Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:50 am
by AndyinPA
It's been a thing around here lately. Very quick money; very easy to do. You can have installed a system so that they cannot (at least so easily) take it off, but it's expensive. Not nearly as expensive as replacing a stolen one, though.
Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:25 pm
by Frater I*I
Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:50 am
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Thanks for the insights – clearly some Fogfolk have greater knowledge of criminality than do I!
I wasn't always the upstanding member of the community that I am today....
Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:22 pm
by Shizzle Popped
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:22 pm
by Shizzle Popped
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Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:25 pm
by Shizzle Popped
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Political Toons
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:26 pm
by Shizzle Popped
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Political Toons
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:25 am
by Gregg
bill_g wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:18 pm
I had to look that one up. I had not heard he was speaking to a women's conservative group over the weekend when he claimed you need an ID to buy bread. Absurd. You would think at least one person in attendence had purchased bread in the last week. Why no one in the audience challenged him is beyond me.
Once he said it, they believed it. If they don't get carded the just feel they got lucky or the clerk knows them.
Hell, don't they see that almost everyone uses self checkout now anyway?
Political Toons
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:34 am
by Gregg
Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:31 am
Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:00 am
Ah, just for the money, or is there some obscure reason why meth heads would find catalytic converters especially attractive?
I know little to nothing of methamphetamine or the pastimes and travails of its adherents.
I can't remember which, but some part in the catalytic converter is worth a lot if you sell it to the 'right' people. It's like people who are stripping cars and anything else they can of copper wiring. Scrap copper is very valuable. But I don't think it's copper that's in the catalytic converters.
About $350-600 worth of platinum mostly but other metals too in them. To a talented meth head who can cut one out in under 5 minutes, he can get about $100 bucks from underground markets where the are people with the skills to get the valuable metals out. It has to be almost refined, it's not "that shiny part there".
In the factory they're usually installed with clamps but in heavy trucks (our gas powered Super Duty, diesels don't use them) they are welded. The people selling the "harder to steal" are simply welding then in, which really doesn't matter to most meth heads who use a sawz-all and don't often carry a set of wrenches, different size sockets and stuff anyhow.
Political Toons
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:13 am
by RTH10260
Gregg wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:25 am
bill_g wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:18 pm
I had to look that one up. I had not heard he was speaking to a women's conservative group over the weekend when he claimed you need an ID to buy bread. Absurd. You would think at least one person in attendence had purchased bread in the last week. Why no one in the audience challenged him is beyond me.
Once he said it, they believed it. If they don't get carded the just feel they got lucky or the clerk knows them.
Hell, don't they see that almost everyone uses self checkout now anyway?
Here in my corner of the world when you checkout alcoholic drinks the machine requests you call the supervisor to confirm your age is 18+. I conclude that in vour corner of the world the bread pass must also get verified. Maybe limited to the land of the Florida Man
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Political Toons
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:14 am
by Sam the Centipede
Thanks folks for humoring me in this minor threadjack.
I think I have understood that as I am not (nor intend to be) a meth head, I do not need to undergo training in the removal, dismantling and illicit sale of catalytic converters. But thank you all for the education, I will recommend the course in Introduction To Vehicular And Narcotic Crime at the Fogbow College Of Stuff to aspiring students.
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Political Toons
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:24 am
by Shizzle Popped
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Political Toons
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:24 am
by Shizzle Popped
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:24 am
by Shizzle Popped
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:26 am
by Shizzle Popped
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I'm reasonably sure this is satire but it's gotten awfully hard to tell the difference over the last several years.
Political Toons
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:26 am
by Shizzle Popped
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Political Toons
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:57 am
by bill_g
Shizzle Popped wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:26 am
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I'm reasonably sure this is satire but it's gotten awfully hard to tell the difference over the last several years.
(chuckle) This one needs to be a billboard in her district.
Political Toons
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:19 am
by Shizzle Popped
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:19 am
by Shizzle Popped
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:20 am
by Shizzle Popped
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