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keith wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:15 am She's hoping to delay it until after NEXT February, when her saviour will be in the White House and will rescue her from her persecutors.

How's that going to work at the state level?

Chilidog wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:39 pm

keith wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:15 am She's hoping to delay it until after NEXT February, when her saviour will be in the White House and will rescue her from her persecutors.

How's that going to work at the state level?

States don't have rights, especially Colorado. Just ask SCOTUS. Apparently.

She has a long way to go to match a local case here. A guy was in jail for 10 years awaiting trial for murder.

His first defense attorney was the father of one of the investigating officers and cross examined him in the preliminary hearing. After refusing a plea deal, his case went through two judges, three prosecutors, four sets of defense lawyers, and nine scheduled trial dates. He finally went to trial and got a life sentence, even though his co-defendant got a trial within 2 years and was acquitted.

But wait, there's more: A new district attorney who had once represented one of the co-defendants was elected in February 2017, requiring the case to be transferred to the attorney general’s office. At that point, the prosecution dropped the death penalty from the case. Finally, on September 19, the trial was again held up amid allegations that some members of the newly empaneled jury of 11 whites and one black may have had improper contact with people connected to the case.

Several years ago, I was called for jury duty. After excusing the folks who can't serve at all, they just take groups alphabetically to create a panel from which the lawyers will select a jury. My group was extra large (like 60 people when they usually get about 30 from which to pick 12). But this particular case was only about sentencing. The person had been found guilty of murder years before. He'd had 5 (FIVE!) former sentencing trials before this one. All of those former adjudications were thrown out for various reasons including improper contact with jurors and racist issues with the DA at the time (several juries in the former sentencing cases had every Black person excused). We were not told this at the time - I found it out later.

We had to fill out lengthy questionnaires at this point (favorite tv shows, view about drugs, lots of stuff). Then we were questioned orally (they ask a question and you raise your hand if it applies to you). It took most of the day so we came back the next morning. Then they wanted to question some of us privately...I was one of those folks. We (the judge, all the lawyers, the defendant, the court reporter) all shuffled into the jury room where they asked me questions. I saw the word "NO" written at the top of my questionnaire, so Idk why they wanted more info. The DA wanted the death penalty and I am against that...and said so in open court and again when they questioned me in private...including wanting to know why (I'm personally against it, and my Christian denomination is against it). At this point I didn't know anything about the case or former sentencing hearings.

Four of us ended up getting excused before they went any further (they still had to choose the 12). We went to pick up our checks to leave and chatted a little. Our little foursome was 1 WM, 1WF, 1BM, 1BF. We were all anti-death penalty. I was kind of sad that out of 60 random people, only 4 could never vote to sentence someone to death. I learned later that this guy was very low IQ, lived in terrible circumstances, was abused his whole life, just a sad story. I do believe he shot and killed the people for which he was convicted, but boy our system is so screwed up.

Chilidog wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:39 pm

keith wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:15 am She's hoping to delay it until after NEXT February, when her saviour will be in the White House and will rescue her from her persecutors.

How's that going to work at the state level?

Are you trying to ascribe logicical awareness of jurisdictional boundaries to these rwo light bulbs?

I love the certainty of Trump sycophants that they will be pardoned, despite the conspicuous failure of Trump to pardon sycophants and begging followers before he left office.

Apart from missing the finer details about differences between federal and state courts and where impotuses can mingle with.

gshevlin2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:48 pm I love the certainty of Trump sycophants that they will be pardoned, despite the conspicuous failure of Trump to pardon sycophants and begging followers before he left office.

I think it's highly likely that he will pardon them if he's elected again. He has already stated his intention of becoming a dictator and he will need brownshirts to keep the masses of people living in fear. These people have proven their willingness to commit vicious acts against their fellow Americans. They will become the backbone of his enforcers and they will recruit all of their friends. He will fan their anger and point them in the direction of their "enemies". We are in for pure hell if this pustule gets elected again. And he just might.

RVInit wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:01 pm I think it's highly likely that he will pardon them if he's elected again.

These are state charges; the president has no authority to pardon them.

Dictator on day one can do what he wants..

Trump is all talk and little action. His decision to help these little people will depend on how much use they are to him, which is essentially none. (He'd have to ask the governor anyway.) How much has he helped Rudi? Belinda and Tina will get less.

bob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:09 pm

RVInit wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:01 pm I think it's highly likely that he will pardon them if he's elected again.

These are state charges; the president has no authority to pardon them.

I was thinking more J6ers.

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:51 am

bob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:09 pm

RVInit wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:01 pm I think it's highly likely that he will pardon them if he's elected again.

These are state charges; the president has no authority to pardon them.

I was thinking more J6ers.

I lose track of which ones we are talking about. Trump has so many associates that are felons or soon-to-be-felons and so many associates that are facing charges in so many places it's mind boggling. If I remember correctly all but about two of his pardons were for people he was either associated with or "Blag", who I am convinced he only pardoned because the seat he tried to sell was Obama's.

I remember when we had one prior President, Clinton, who pardoned a single associate, and was appropriately ashamed enough of it to wait until his last hour as President.

He thought it would buy him democratic votes.

RVInit wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:06 pm ...Clinton, who pardoned a single associate, and was appropriately ashamed enough...

Shame is never a concern of the Turnip.

Tina's in an ankle monitor! Don't bet on it, but her trial is scheduled (again) to start next week.

Luke Johnson @Orly_licious 4m
#TinaPeters Update: Tina Peters is now sporting an ankle monitor. Gorsuch for SCOTUS DECLINED the Mesa County CO clerk's appeal. 10 charges, some felonies, related to election tampering & official misconduct. She faces 20 years. End of July trial. https://gjsentinel.com/news/western_col ... 34a64.html

Luke Johnson @Orly_licious 4m
MAGA is hysterical about Tina Peters being held accountable for her crimes. Remember Mike Lindell's Hardee's episode seizing his cell phone? That was for this case among others. This will be a big trial.

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Luke Johnson @Orly_licious 4m
There's confusion on Tina Peters' trial start date -- CNN reported July 29, @ColoradoMatters & Durango Herald says July 31, and the GJSentinel story reports July 30. All will be revealed.

Trump ally who denies 2020 election results threatens law enforcement

Patrick Byrne, who has funded efforts to undermine the results of the 2020 election, said in an online forum Thursday that law enforcement would face “a piano wire and a blowtorch” if they did not drop a case against an ally.

Byrne, a former CEO of online retailer Overstock, used the phrase half a dozen times Thursday as he participated in a nearly three-hour-long event on X Spaces.

The “Cyber Crisis: Saving Tina Peters” event was aimed at rallying support for the former clerk of Mesa County, Colo., who faces charges accusing her of tampering with election equipment three years ago. Peters has pleaded not guilty, and her case goes to trial next week.

Byrne said Friday that his comments were “obviously a metaphor.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... s-threats/

Metaphor my ass. I hope he is arrested.

He seems nice.

Everywhere I go these days, stores, restaurants, events, I keep seeing signs to be kind. And I think back to the good old days when we didn't have to remind people of that.

Fuck trump.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss John McCain. The way he handled that hysterical woman at the debate was probably the last selfless effort by a Republican.

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:07 am Everywhere I go these days, stores, restaurants, events, I keep seeing signs to be kind. And I think back to the good old days when we didn't have to remind people of that.

Fuck trump.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss John McCain. The way he handled that hysterical woman at the debate was probably the last selfless effort by a Republican.

Indeed, and the second place drop from there to the occasional glimmers of decency from Romney or anyone else is so steep it's crazy.

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:07 am I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss John McCain. The way he handled that hysterical woman at the debate was probably the last selfless effort by a Republican.

And what was the lesson "learned"? Selflessness loses elections.

Foggy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:29 amHe seems nice.

Byrne and Maria Butina (the Russian spy of NRA fame) were an item for a few years.

Tina's on X wailing and grifting and lying. Asked her the deets on her trial... if it's livestreamed, might cover it on X.

Tina Peters Whistleblower of fallen Navy SEAL @realtinapeters 1h
Watch @PatrickByrne here https://patrickbyrne.locals.com/post/59 ... as-stabbed
UNTIL WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE VOTING MACHINE CORRUPTION IN #VenezuelaVOTA #VenezuelaLibre No one will be elected that serves the people. http://FreeTina.com http://TinaPeters.us
@elonmusk @BehizyTweets @TuckerCarlson

Luke Johnson @Orly_licious
Tina, we've been following your case closely, Mike Lindell has been a huge resource. Will your trial be live-streamed? Haven't been able to find where, and different places have different dates for it to start. Is it Wednesday? Best to you!

Meanwhile, Lindell is all in (Both support and criminal charges? His cell phone seizure at Hardee's was over this trial):

Supporting Tina Peters as court date looms
Inbox Lindell Offense Fund <no-reply@lindelloffensefund.org> 5:53 PM (44 minutes ago) to me

Lindell Offense Fund

Dear friends,

I want to share this message from Tina Peters. The Lindell Offense Fund has stood with Tina and financially supported her legal defense and the creation of the Mesa County reoorts, since day 1.

“It takes A LOT of attorneys to fight this EVIL MACHINE that is trying to take our nation.”

She’s right, and the Lindell Offense Fund has spent millions fighting for those standing against corruption and tyranny.

Tina Peters endorses the LLOF
Support the Lindell Offense Fund!

PLEASE CONSIDER BECOMING A MONTHLY PARTNER:

Support $24 to the Lindell Offense Fund
Support $47 to the Lindell Offense Fund
Support $75 to the Lindell Offense Fund
Support $100 to the Lindell Offense Fund
Support $250 to the Lindell Offense Fund

I’m touched by Tina’s message in support of Lindell Offense Fund, and we are behind Tina as her July 31 trial is just days away.

The Lindell Plan is so important, and our need for YOUR support continues to be URGENT.

Fight. Fight. Fight.

God bless, Mike Lindell
Lindell Offense Fund

The clip is from a YEAR ago lol and on Sherronna Bishop's YouTube channel. Only 734 views.

Posted this for #LukeCrew on X... might do some live trial coverage.


Luke Johnson @Orly_licious 7s
Hey, #LukeCrew! Tina Peters' trial starts it seems on Wednesday. Anybody up for some trial coverage? Peters faces 10 criminal charges on election tampering & official misconduct. SCOTUS denied her bid to block it. Folks say it will be live-streamed.

https://www.cpr.org/2024/07/19/grand-ju ... l-hearing/

Question: what is this Navy whistleblower thingy that Tina brags in her twitt account moniker ?

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:38 am Question: what is this Navy whistleblower thingy that Tina brags in her twitt account moniker ?

Something to do with her late husband, who was apparently a Navy SEAl. According to Twitter, she divorced him in 2017 (Twitter says because of his health issues, but who knows?) and she tried to claim his property. I don't know what they mean by "tried to claim his property", could be innocent, but … yeah.

Tina Peters does appear to be a thoroughly obnoxious person. She is a scrounger too: her dating bio apparently said that she won't pay her share of dates even though she could afford to, justifying that as being "old-fashioned". Hm. I think it's more that she is obnoxious and wants everything to revolve around her without her paying the price or accepting the consequences.

Sorry, that didn't really clarify the whistleblower bit. I lost interest!