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E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:03 pm
by SuzieC
3 hours of deliberation. MSNBC says looks like jury was swift and unanimous.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:07 pm
by Phoenix520
Even the Pool boy! There’s hope for the rest of MAGAland! :pigsfly:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:08 pm
by Volkonski
:waiting:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:08 pm
by chancery
Wow.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:09 pm
by chancery
Wasn't expecting that.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:09 pm
by Foggy
Ah, $2 million. :biggrin:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:09 pm
by p0rtia
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E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:09 pm
by RVInit
No on rape. YES on sexual battery. 2 million award

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:11 pm
by Foggy
Okay, now I owe a huge apology to Maybenaut for not improving the poll.

I'm sorry, Maybenaut.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:11 pm
by SuzieC
No on rape, yes on sexual assault. Award is $2 million. Also yes on defamation. Award for defamation $1 million. $280,000 in punitives. There was another $20,000 for--something-- so there is a nice round number of $3.3 million. Holy shit.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:12 pm
by Foggy
Another million for defamation, ol' Wifehorn says total almost $5 million.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:13 pm
by p0rtia
:stamp: :stamp: :stamp:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:14 pm
by Kendra
:groupdance:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:14 pm
by chancery
:kickface: :kickface: :kickface: :kickface: :kickface: :kickface: :kickface: :kickface: :kickface:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:14 pm
by SuzieC
:thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: jury.

MSNBC just said $5 million as well. I missed something.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:15 pm
by Uninformed
Accountability! :thumbsup: :clap:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:16 pm
by Volkonski
Good.

Of course he will appeal this verdict for years.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:17 pm
by Foggy
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E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:17 pm
by Kendra
@KlasfeldReports
Judge tells jurors that each of them has the ability to talk about their experiences — and publicly identify themselves, if they do so.

But he advises them not to: "Not now, and not for a long time."

The judge DIRECTS them not to identify other jurors.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:18 pm
by sterngard friegen
The jury verdict on sexual assault vice rape smacks of a compromise. That probably made the other verdicts easier for the juror(s) who didn't want to vote for the top (civil) offense.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:20 pm
by Foggy
Werd.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:21 pm
by Kendra
Nothing on Fox website yet. Might take them a while to spin it. :faint:
Edit: I turned on Fox channel and they're reporting it live. Didn't listen, I've got the tablet tuned into CNN. Nicolle Wallace should be fun today :popcorn:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:21 pm
by chancery
So, at the margin I would have preferred "yes" on the first question, but the fact that it was "no" makes it harder to argue credibly that this was a politicized, knee-jerk jury.

Edit: I too strongly suspect that this was a compromise verdict.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:22 pm
by neonzx
HAPPY DANCE!

:bunny: :cheer2: :cheer1: :bwahaha: :fiesta: :bunny:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:22 pm
by RVInit
I cannot stop jumping up and down. Finally some accountability.