Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 3:18 pm
by raison de arizona
neeneko wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 11:02 am
I wonder how much impact this fracturing is really 'fracturing' though. By having both the audit and the pushback against the audit within the same party, seems to me that they can claim to be either way depending on what a particular voter wants to hear. Want a party that is fighting the good fight for stolen votes? The GoP is behind you! Want a party that is fighting the good fight against the Big Lie? The GoP is behind you! By playing both sides of this fight, they can count on blind loyalty to retain voters of both persuasions. It is less a fracture and more dual marketing.
Jeebus, I'm so confused about what The Big Lie is these days. Is The Big Lie that Trump won? Is The Big Lie that Biden won? Seeing as the term was coined by Hitler, maybe we ought let Trump have it. The Big Liar. Große Lüge. Didn't McConnell try to co-opt it for (er, against) HR1 as well? What a mess these lying liars have made.
Oh, and they will keep that crap alive as long as it serves their purposes, which to me look primarily like a) keeping Trump slap happy, and b) FUNDRAISING!
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 4:00 pm
by LM K
Live stream of County Supervisor's meeting.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 4:18 pm
by LM K
Hearing is really good.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:01 pm
by Uninformed
From across the pond watching the U.S. Senate and House members, and others, dividing on purely partisan lines it was remarkable to see that the Republican and Democrat members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors obviously try to work together and continue to do so under what must be extreme pressure. They deserve praise.
(I particularly liked the parting shot that if necessary they would see the senate in court.)
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:15 pm
by fierceredpanda
Uninformed wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 5:01 pm
From across the pond watching the U.S. Senate and House members, and others, dividing on purely partisan lines it was remarkable to see that the Republican and Democrat members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors obviously try to work together and continue to do so under what must be extreme pressure. They deserve praise.
(I particularly liked the parting shot that if necessary they would see the senate in court.)
Hear, hear.
The chairman referring to "this circus" at the beginning, not to mention "a grift described as an audit," really sets the tone.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Uninformed wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 5:01 pm
From across the pond watching the U.S. Senate and House members, and others, dividing on purely partisan lines it was remarkable to see that the Republican and Democrat members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors obviously try to work together and continue to do so under what must be extreme pressure. They deserve praise.
(I particularly liked the parting shot that if necessary they would see the senate in court.)
Hear, hear.
The chairman referring to "this circus" at the beginning, not to mention "a grift described as an audit," really sets the tone.
I like the part where he called the ninjas incompetent that they lost information that was already provided and that wouldn't have happened if they hired someone who had done audits before. And this shouldn't be on the job training.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 6:15 pm
by LM K
It's fabulous that the county supervisors have drawn a line in the sand and said, basically, if you want anything more than the report we're sending now, we'll let the courts take care of the rest.
That is a very smart move. It's the ONLY way to get the senate to behave and to stop this nonsense between it and the county supervisors.
The county supervisors is done jumping at the clap of the senate's hands.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 6:40 pm
by LM K
County supervisors report to the senate.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 7:07 pm
by LM K
The letter by the county supervisors to the senate is excellent. It's the spanking Cyber Ninjas and the repubs in the senate have earned.
Cyber Ninjas is so much more incompetent than we've known. They have seriously fucked up.
Cyber Ninjas is taking images of each paper ballot, which is illegal. I wonder how the senate will respond to that, and how that will affect their plans for yet another fraudit.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 7:12 pm
by northland10
LM K wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 6:40 pm
County supervisors report to the senate.
Executive Summary:
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 7:50 pm
by p0rtia
LM K wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 4:00 pm
Live stream of County Supervisor's meeting.
Wow. Thanks for posting. As a poll worker myself, I get a special frisson when I hear about boards of elections and election workers coming under fire from the rabble and their minders. It cannot be stated often enough that the attack on our elections has nothing to do with D v R.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 7:58 pm
by neeneko
LM K wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:07 pm
The letter by the county supervisors to the senate is excellent. It's the spanking Cyber Ninjas and the repubs in the senate have earned.
Cyber Ninjas is so much more incompetent than we've known. They have seriously fucked up.
Cyber Ninjas is taking images of each paper ballot, which is illegal. I wonder how the senate will respond to that, and how that will affect their plans for yet another fraudit.
That they were using RStudio for audit work reinforced my earlier idea that they have a bunch of undergrad ML/DS interns around and are poorly applying whatever tools they remember from school.
RStudio is a great toolset, but doesn't make sense in an audit unless you are planning to make some kind of fancy difficult to follow statistical model.. the kind where you tell it what result you want and it fits the data to it.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:12 pm
by northland10
Cyber Ninjas received a PPP load last year for $98,322. Apparently, they claimed to retain 5 employees.
I would think an election audit firm might have a few more people than 5.
LM K wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:07 pm
The letter by the county supervisors to the senate is excellent. It's the spanking Cyber Ninjas and the repubs in the senate have earned.
Cyber Ninjas is so much more incompetent than we've known. They have seriously fucked up.
Cyber Ninjas is taking images of each paper ballot, which is illegal. I wonder how the senate will respond to that, and how that will affect their plans for yet another fraudit.
That they were using RStudio for audit work reinforced my earlier idea that they have a bunch of undergrad ML/DS interns around and are poorly applying whatever tools they remember from school.
RStudio is a great toolset, but doesn't make sense in an audit unless you are planning to make some kind of fancy difficult to follow statistical model.. the kind where you tell it what result you want and it fits the data to it.
I think they're using RStudio because they can't figure out how to use anything else. Assuming they know what else to use.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:45 pm
by realist
LM K wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 6:40 pm
County supervisors report to the senate.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:52 pm
by Uninformed
I tried with no success to find any references to the “audit” on the Fox News site.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:56 pm
by noblepa
northland10 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:12 pm
Cyber Ninjas received a PPP load last year for $98,322. Apparently, they claimed to retain 5 employees.
I would think an election audit firm might have a few more people than 5.
To be fair, I think that they are saying that they retained five employees that they would have had to lay off, had they not received the loan, not that they only had five employees total.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:57 pm
by noblepa
neeneko wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:58 pmRStudio is a great toolset, but doesn't make sense in an audit unless you are planning to make some kind of fancy difficult to follow statistical model.. the kind where you tell it what result you want and it fits the data to it.
That is probably exactly why they chose it.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
To be fair, I think that they are saying that they retained five employees that they would have had to lay off, had they not received the loan, not that they only had five employees total.
Their Linkedin page says they have something like 2-10 employees, so 5 sounds about right. That said, I would not be surprised if there was stretching the truth on the PPP loan request.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 10:28 pm
by johnpcapitalist
LM K wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:25 pm
I think they're using RStudio because they can't figure out how to use anything else. Assuming they know what else to use.
Not unlike how Mike Lindell's genius software development team settled on Drupal for the "Frank" site. Somebody knew somebody whose friend developed a site in Drupal, and it was pretty easy, so off they went. Here, somebody probably heard that real statisticians use R so off they went.
Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 11:32 pm
by Luke
Hmmm. Jovan is going to delete all messages on his channel in 24 hours (posted at 2:30pm). Not this grifter's usual play, he has 58,000 Telegram subscribers (2/3 of which are probably bots, but still). Wonder what came down/is coming down.
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Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 11:42 pm
by Luke
Hmmm. More backtracking, this time from Ron Watkins...
CodeMonkeyZ, [17.05.21 20:43]
They said the seals were sealed which is probably true (at some point in time).
They were likely sealed at some point in the past, but allegedly weren’t sealed when delivered to the auditors/senate.
CodeMonkeyZ, [17.05.21 20:45]
There was a long berating section bullying the auditors for not knowing where the database is stored etc etc.
What they dont say is where the database is stored.
Why two pages of smoke and mirrors when one sentence will suffice?
“The database is stored here: ...”
CodeMonkeyZ, [17.05.21 20:48] Im not an auditor and am not affiliated with the auditors, so im not going to go through this document with a fine toothed comb.
Just commenting on these two points because they stood out to me after a quick look over of the document.
Looking forward to seeing the response from the auditors.
And...
Pepe Deluxe, [17.05.21 20:50]
[Forwarded from TruthHammer (TruthHammer888)]
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Up until now this effort has been EFFECTIVE in organizing and focussing the collective intelligence of 1,000s of anons. We want to bring transparency to this and make you aware of the new channel (under same creator as the old). Follow old or new as you please. This message merely informs you.
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