Dave from down under wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:46 pm
If Kyle was legally entitled to chase someone and then kill them and kill them when they responded to his threatening action (4 shots, maimed with first, then 2 to the back to make sure he was dead).
I think you know I don't believe Kyle was entitled to chase someone and then kill them. I think there's very little evidence for this description; I don't believe for a minute that is what happened. And I think everyone, no matter their opinion, should recognize that a jury could very easily not consider this proven on the trial evidence.
Dave from down under wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:46 pm
Then everyone is entitled to kill Kyle - because there is no way of knowing how many more people he would kill/maim.
Well I conceded that other people could have been justified in killing him.
However, you should understand that the people who chased him did not see what happened with Rosenbaum. They heard shouts "hey that n**r just shot someone", "get his ass", "cranium that boy". The ones that ran at him leapt into action as a mob on fairly thin evidence, IMO.
And again, manifestly he only shot people who attacked him, at the last minute as they were right upon him. He didn't shoot people who pulled up or put their hands in the air. I would say his behavior was patently defensive. All someone had to do was put their hands in the air or leave him alone. He was not behaving like someone who *wanted* to shoot people.
But if you believe they were justified in using force against him, I'm not motivated to argue the point deeply. It's irrelevant to the verdict on Rittenhouse. The only state of mind the jury instructions require the jury to assess is Rittenhouse's. It doesn't matter what motivated the others.
Dave from down under wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:46 pm
After killing once - he didn’t put down his gun and try to be the combat medic he claimed to be… no he ran away with the gun and used it on others.
Well he was in a difficult spot. As he sees it, he was forced to shoot an attacker in self-defense. And now he's caught out among a mob of protestors who don't know what happened but are yelling to get him and predisposed to think the worst of him. And *they* are not going to give him a fair trial! So he tried to make it toward the police line a couple of block away -- everyone knew where it was and could see the flashing lights. I think that's not unreasonable.