Fogbow

Posted: **Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:15 pm**

Suranis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:13 pmAnd actual Biden rally clips where the press would prefer to play Turnip shit.

E.g.:

Posted: **Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:14 pm**

Agree and had to mention it again—it's been fantastic not seeing the impeached, convicted felon dominating the news (he'll regret avoiding his trials; it cuts off his oxygen). The silver lining. More of these great Biden appearances will further isolate the anti-Biden crowd. Big thanks to Kamala Harris, too. She's been loyal and a fighter for President Biden. I bet her approval ratings among Democrats and Independents will rise for her loyalty and handling of this. Something we never saw in the disgraced felon's administration.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:42 am**

"Don't you quit."

I'm crying.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:12 am**

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:36 am**

But... what if he *whispers* took his wife on a date?

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:00 pm**

I know everyone has been waiting for Orly to weigh in (usual warnings about her hellsite apply). She's added the Obama death list as well!
https://www.orlytaitzesq.com/there-are- ... l-off-him/

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:04 pm**

Well this topic can likely be closed now. The Media is onto its new shiny object.

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:49 pm**

Joe Biden is too old to get shot cut by flying glass in the ear.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:38 pm**

I should have saved a link but I’m seeing reports that Joe is withdrawing from the presidential race.

Anyone else seen such? I’m not believing it at this time, but …

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:44 pm**

realist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:38 pm I should have saved a link but I’m seeing reports that Joe is withdrawing from the presidential race.

Anyone else seen such? I’m not believing it at this time, but …

Not seeing anything on news sites or twitter.
eta: maybe they have it confused with his (real) announcement that he's temporarily pulling his campaign ads? Or maybe it's a bunch of halfwits spewing crap.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:57 pm**

Nothing on Twitter that I see, and I have MSNBC running on my TV and there's nothing there.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:04 pm**

Thanks. I've not seen anything on the "real" news outlets nor twitter. Like I say, I didn't believe it at the time, but just checking.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:08 pm**

This is the closest I've seen: Politico: House Dems plot last-ditch effort to delay Biden nomination:

One Democratic lawmaker is circulating a letter asking the DNC to postpone the virtual roll call vote expected to be conducted in the coming weeks.

Dozens of House Democrats are organizing a plan to speak out against their own party’s effort to seal President Joe Biden’s nomination sooner than originally planned, which they argue stifles the intense ongoing debate about his candidacy, according to a lawmaker involved in the effort.

A drafted letter, circulated by Rep. Jared Huffman (D-Calif.) and obtained by POLITICO, offers the first public signal from Democrats since the weekend’s attempted assassination on former President Donald Trump that scores of their own members remain deeply unsettled about the future of Biden’s candidacy.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:45 pm**

Wait.

A drafted letter, circulated by ONE CONGRESSMAN, offers the first public signal ... that scores of their own members remain deeply unsettled about the future of Biden’s candidacy.

Well, golly, we needed some indication how many Democrats are willing to throw their own candy date out with the fishwrap, and now we know - if'n ONE Dem signs a letter, that means SCORES OF DEMOCRATS AGREE WITH HIM.

Is that how it works?

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:02 pm**

In 24/7 punditry world, it does.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:47 am**

One thing to bear in mind with this kind of "HIllary is at death's door" stage of the election is that early voting - including mail in voting - starts in some states as early as SEPTEMBER 23.

This is likewise a feature of US elections which is ignored by the various "X days until the election" countdown calendars.

People start voting in 68 days. Ballots are being drawn up now.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:50 am**

Biden isn't the nominee officially quite yet.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:04 am**

I wish someone would show Biden this map. I carry it with me as I am stumping around trying desperately to do my part to help turn things around. I also carry around a slip of paper that has the following web page, and I've even had feedback that it helps put inflation in the USA into perspective.

https://gfmag.com/data/economic-data/wo ... ion-rates/

: Inflation Map.png (61.56 KiB) Viewed 293 times

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:05 pm**

realist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:38 pm I should have saved a link but I’m seeing reports that Joe is withdrawing from the presidential race.

Anyone else seen such? I’m not believing it at this time, but …

There's a prank going around with a link from sanfranciscochronicle.com don't click on it. It's porn.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:20 pm**

Julia Ioffe
@juliaioffe

In the Zoom call with the New Dems on Saturday afternoon, Biden was "worse than the debate" and attacked @RepJasonCrow
, even negatively comparing Crow's Bronze star with Beau Biden's.

My latest. https://puck.news/biden-saturday-zoom-c ... the-rails/

The number one priority of the Democratic party right now is the election of a Democrat for president in November.

That said, I'm getting concerned about the Democratic leaders who are calling on Biden to drop out. Not that they are wrong. But that they may be right. They are the ones who have worked closely with Biden, who have heard him talk without reporters or Republicans in the room. From the article mentioned above -

Right before the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, a group of moderate Hill Democrats held a “tense” Zoom call with the White House to express their concern about Biden’s ability to win—and their ability to win, should he tank and take them down with him. “The call was even worse than the debate,” one of the participants told me. “He was rambling; he’d start an answer then lose his train of thought, then would just say ‘whatever.’ He really couldn’t complete an answer. I lost a ton of respect for him.” A second participant in the call confirmed this characterization. “The president was rambling, dismissive of concerns, unable or unprepared to present a campaign strategy, and had a particularly troubling exchange with Jason Crow—saying to him, ‘Tell me something you’ve never done with your Bronze Star like my son,’” this member of Congress told me. “Had the assassination attempt not occurred an hour later, I imagine 50 people on that Zoom were ready to come out publicly against him.” (Biden ended the call on Saturday, just after 5 p.m., by saying his staff told him it was time for mass. The attempted assassination happened shortly after 6 p.m.) A third participant confirmed the descriptions of the president’s demeanor during the call to my partner Abby Livingston.

The article goes on to state that other participants said that Biden was "sharp, forceful." But I could see loyalists expressing that view.

I think that Biden does occasionally have issues and the Democratic leaders are fearful that that will be publicly exposed during an interview or another debate. That could be tragic, and the closer to November we get, the worse it could be.

I really, really want an "on his game" Biden to be the candidate, but I would vote for a dead turtle in the road before I vote for Trump. As long as it's running as a Democrat.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:54 pm**

I'm having trouble with the "unnamed candidate" that would replace Joe.

If the answer is Kamala Harris, I don't see the point. She's already on the ticket.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:33 pm**

I'm getting really tired of it constantly being "one person" that's saying all this. If its the SAME guy all the time that's saying this, then that could be just one ratfucker feeding the press what they want to hear.

And dismissing the multiple people saying Biden was fine as "loyalists" is kind of shitty when its their word against one guy. When its one guy saying he was awful and multiple guys saying he was fine, my bet is that the multiple people are actually accurate.

So ya, if its always "one person" and the press is extrapolating "Multiple democrats" from that, that's lying.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:57 pm**

Suranis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:33 pm And dismissing the multiple people saying Biden was fine as "loyalists" is kind of shitty when its their word against one guy. When its one guy saying he was awful and multiple guys saying he was fine, my bet is that the multiple people are actually accurate.

The article - which I did not quote in its entirety - stated that a half dozen participants tweeted that Biden had done a good job. What I did quote above stated that THREE participants were concerned about Biden's rambling and his appearing to get lost while talking.

I would love to believe that Biden is always sharp. But if he does show weakness - like what he did during the debate - that could be catastrophic in the days ahead. The Democrats in power need to convince Biden to drop out if they are seeing a problem. Personally, I hope the issue is overblown and the Biden will stay in the race and trounce Trump once again.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:04 pm**

“Top Democrat Schiff calls on Biden to 'pass the torch'”:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9473edpeeo

“Prominent Democrat Adam Schiff - a California congressman running to be the state's next senator - has called on President Joe Biden to "pass the torch" and allow another Democrat to challenge Donald Trump in November.
Mr Schiff said that Mr Biden “has been one of the most consequential presidents in our nation’s history", and he could "secure his legacy of leadership" by allowing Democrats to support another candidate.
"Our nation is at a crossroads. A second Trump presidency will undermine the very foundation of our democracy, and I have serious concerns about whether the President can defeat Donald Trump in November," he added.”

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:54 pm**

re: passing the torch:

Please some speculation that if Joe Biden were to step down now and Kamela Harris takes over, what would her chances be for reelection in November?

Fogbow

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