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neonzx wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:25 pm Nearly 100 infected with COVID-19 at Republic super-spreader event
https://www.krem.com/article/news/inves ... ff33946e58

The event was set up to recruit new Eagle’s Club members the weekend of April 9-11. Some said it was advertised as a protest against COVID-19 restrictions. The club president said it was simply a dinner and poker night to attract new members.

orlylicious wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:55 pm Andy, would it be possible please to include "COVIDIOTS" and "Anti-Vaxxers" in the topic title? Keep forgetting the title and always think of COVIDIOTS

Speaking of whom...


Miki COVID.JPG


Not going to burn an account over it, but first thought to post was: Oh my gosh Miki, you COMPLIED by retyping exactly the response they wanted! What happened to LIBERTY and FREEDOM to text whatever you want????

Paolo Pluda, 52, and Nicola Zanardelli, 51 were arrested overnight for suspected terrorism offences, according to the ANSA news agency.

The suspects are accused of an April 3 Molotov cocktail attack on a vaccination center in the northern city of Brescia that damaged one of the center’s two pavilions, the daily Corriere della Sera reported.

Vaccines held in cold storage at the site were saved because the fire did not spread to threaten the unit’s electrical supply.

The breakthrough in the investigation came with the discovery of images of alleged bomb preparation by the two individuals, the paper said.

She’s a school nurse who claims face masks are dangerous to kids and do nothing to stop the spread of COVID.

After refusing to wear a mask herself, Erin Pein said she was suspended from her job in the Stafford Township school district.

Now her supporters are planning a rally and her cause has become an issue in the upcoming Republican primary for Hirsh Singh, who arranged and posted a widely shared video interview with her and argues that no one should be forced to wear masks — calling it “a matter of personal freedom.”

But epidemiologists say such claims are little more than “inflammatory rhetoric” and at odds with the science that has repeatedly shown that face masks are highly effective in reducing the spread of the coronavirus. At the same time, they said as new variants of the virus develop, the wearing of masks has become more important than ever.



Pein, who did respond to calls or emails seeking comment, claimed in the video made by Singh’s campaign that masks did not prevent children from being exposed to COVID.

“The masks unfortunately don’t prevent them from getting COVID. Because the viruses are so small, it can’t be stopped with a mask,” she said.

zekeb wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:00 pm I know a nuttier RN. She's a trumpista too, which explains it. These nurses who think they know more than a MD or PhD shouldn't be allowed to practice.

neonzx wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:15 pm

zekeb wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:00 pm I know a nuttier RN. She's a trumpista too, which explains it. These nurses who think they know more than a MD or PhD shouldn't be allowed to practice.

I'm not sure what counts as a nursing degree -- she says she got a bachelors (4 years). Is that all it takes?


She does raise some proper legit concerns. Yes, we (collectively) pick up on non-verbal cues more than words. You can't develop those skills if everyone is masked. That's why we are rushing to get these vaccines out. If I can't see your face, I can't trust you. And these kids, need to be kids. I'm not saying she's right, but she has a point.

When I talk to a young child, I remove my face mask.

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:35 pm I'm sure you're trying to be polite with kids, but they aren't your kids, and you don't get to decide about a mask when around other people's kids. If the parents are masked or you are in a situation where masks would be worn by other adults, I would consider you to be incredibly out of line to intentionally take it off to speak to a child. No different to me than if a parent tells a child no about something and some rando wants to disregard that and tell the child it's ok.

neonzx wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:59 pm

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:35 pm I'm sure you're trying to be polite with kids, but they aren't your kids, and you don't get to decide about a mask when around other people's kids. If the parents are masked or you are in a situation where masks would be worn by other adults, I would consider you to be incredibly out of line to intentionally take it off to speak to a child. No different to me than if a parent tells a child no about something and some rando wants to disregard that and tell the child it's ok.

I still keep a safe distance. But I want them to see my facial expressions.

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:07 pm A clear face screen might help.

But...
Children are more adaptable and resilient than is often credited.

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:48 pm

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:07 pm A clear face screen might help.

But...
Children are more adaptable and resilient than is often credited.

Yes, they were until they weren’t.

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 6:10 pm

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:48 pm

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:07 pm A clear face screen might help.

But...
Children are more adaptable and resilient than is often credited.

Yes, they were until they weren’t.

I meant - that the lack of facial observation that results from wearing a mask is not as likely to cause harm as potential exposure to COVID etc.

If visual communication by facial features is a must, such as a distressed deaf child who cannot be otherwise comforted - then a face screen is better than nothing.

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 6:10 pm

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:48 pm

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:07 pm A clear face screen might help.

But...
Children are more adaptable and resilient than is often credited.

Yes, they were until they weren’t.

I meant - that the lack of facial observation that results from wearing a mask is not as likely to cause harm as potential exposure to COVID etc.

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 6:26 pm

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 6:10 pm

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:48 pm

Yes, they were until they weren’t.

I meant - that the lack of facial observation that results from wearing a mask is not as likely to cause harm as potential exposure to COVID etc.

Yes. I also see people treat kids like the slightest challenge or setback will break them.

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BREAKING: County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl confronts anti-masker protesters at her home in Santa Monica. When one protester says that HIV doesn’t cause AIDS, Khuel takes a step forward and points a finger. “You are really crossing a line now. How many people did you lose to AIDS?”