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Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:53 am
by MN-Skeptic
Kriselda Gray wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:32 pm I thought they were divorced - is this a different Sarah that I just haven't previously heard about, an interesting living arrangement or did they get back together?
It's an interesting living arrangement. Prince Andrew's home has 30 rooms, and Fergie still lives there. It made it easy for raising their daughters. According to the articles I just googled, Andrew and Fergie get along great as friends.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:55 am
by Kriselda Gray
MN-Skeptic wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:53 am
Kriselda Gray wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:32 pm I thought they were divorced - is this a different Sarah that I just haven't previously heard about, an interesting living arrangement or did they get back together?
It's an interesting living arrangement. Prince Andrew's home has 30 rooms, and Fergie still lives there. It made it easy for raising their daughters. According to the articles I just googled, Andrew and Fergie get along great as friends.
More power to them, then!

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:05 am
by keith
MsDaisy wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:10 pm
Kendra wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:56 pm
From the White House, according to the pool report: This morning, President Biden formally accepted an invitation to attend the State Funeral Service of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II on September 19. He will be accompanied by the First Lady.
From what I heard on CNN, the invite was for POTUS and FLOTUS and that's it. tfg should be howling soon. I'm sure her and his spawn thought they'd all get a ticket.
What are the odds the trumps would "try" to crash? I'd love to see him turned away, especially after already paying for the flight over. He'll probably announce some urgent thing he has to attend to here and he'll be "unable to attend" in order to avoid the embarrassment that no one wants his sorry ass there in the first place. :roll:
Well, since apparently the only valid passport he has is his diplomatic passport which can only be used for official travel. So, there's no 'crashing' the funeral for Donnie.

Of course, he may have some other passport that wasn't confiscated in the Mar-a-largo search.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:16 am
by keith
Kriselda Gray wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:32 pm
MN-Skeptic wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:55 pm I know folks were wondering…

https: //twitter. com/cnnbrk/status/1568997956199530500
I thought they were divorced - is this a different Sarah that I just haven't previously heard about, an interesting living arrangement or did they get back together?
I think they are living in the same 'house' - some giant 'castle' with several different apartments. Anyway, even if apart, they could split the NINE dogs between them somehow.

ETA: Queen's corgis to live with the Duke and Duchess of York
Queen Elizabeth II's corgis will live with the Duke and Duchess of York, Andrew and Sarah, a source close to the Duke of York told CNN on Sunday.

The pair, who divorced in 1996, both reside at the Royal Lodge on the Windsor estate.

The source told CNN that the Duchess bonded with the monarch over a shared love of dog-walking and horse-riding.

Even after her divorce from Prince Andrew, Sarah continued her friendship with the Queen by walking dogs through the Windsor estate, the source added.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:49 am
by Kriselda Gray
keith wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:16 am I think they are living in the same 'house' - some giant 'castle' with several different apartments. Anyway, even if apart, they could split the NINE dogs between them somehow.

ETA:
The source told CNN that the Duchess bonded with the monarch over a shared love of dog-walking and horse-riding.

Even after her divorce from Prince Andrew, Sarah continued her friendship with the Queen by walking dogs through the Windsor estate, the source added.
Well, it sounds like the Queen has reason to believe they'll be in good hands :) But 9? I thought there were only 4 left - 2 Corgies, 1 Dorgie and 1 I can't remember, but it doesn't end with "-rgie"

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:54 am
by keith
It is entirely possible that I got the number wrong.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:22 am
by Gregg
Suranis wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:03 pm Trying to remember who the 4 "good" queens were. There was Elizabeth I & II, Victoria, and the bad one was "Bloody" Mary Tudor. I suppose I could look up Wiki but too lazy.
Wins:

Boudicca, Mary (William and Mary version), Elizabeth I. Victoria, Elizabeth II

Losses Mary Tudor

Draw Jane Grey

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:30 am
by Gregg
much ado wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:46 pm
Gregg wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:51 pm If someone in the UK would pick me up a print edition of the Time of London with the Obit I would be thankful. I'll pay for it and the cost to ship it to me.

Ben-Prime?
According to this web page here...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/help/article ... nday-times

You can order back copies of The Times from this site...

https://www.ocsmedia.net/

They ship worldwide.

ETA: The current Sunday Times contains several articles about Elizabeth II. The cost is 25 GBP. I'm not sure whether that includes shipping.

ETA again: It won't give you a price until you specify your country. So I assume this means the price includes shipping. The weekday issues are 15 GBP to US, but it won't let you select the most recent dates at the moment...
Shipping? For 25 quid it should include a happy ending. This is a newspaper, not a book.

But that's why I asked someone local to get one at a newstand. I wouldn't mind paying that if that's what the shipping costs but royal mail is more reasonable than that, I'm sure the company doing the order is making more than anyone else. Hell, I'll pay that much to someone and let them keep the difference instead of a reshipper.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:31 am
by much ado
Apologies.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:55 am
by RTH10260
keith wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:05 am :snippity:
Of course, he may have some other passport that wasn't confiscated in the Mar-a-largo search.
Passports had been returned.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:44 am
by northland10
Suranis wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:03 pm Trying to remember who the 4 "good" queens were. There was Elizabeth I & II, Victoria, and the bad one was "Bloody" Mary Tudor. I suppose I could look up Wiki but too lazy.
Mary II gets forgotten as she was co-monarch with William of Orange (I.e. William and Mary). She was not just queen consort or regent but fully queen.

Anne was the queen when they unified the Scottish and English crowns.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:20 am
by Uninformed
Being somewhat of a news addict, and definitely not a monarchist, the daily twenty four hour bombardment of royal news is starting to grate just a little bit. Being related to and a friend of some whom are invested in the pomp and ceremony (frippery!) it all gets rather awkward. Must go out walking more. :notlistening:

P.S. If any of you get various details wrong about royal matters don’t worry, a number of “constitutional experts” and royal historians (hacks) have been talking a considerable amount of tripe.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:57 am
by Dave from down under
If you are having trouble remembering all the English Kings and Queens here’s a little ditty to sing along to..



Needs updating to include Charley 3..

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:01 am
by keith
RTH10260 wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:55 am
keith wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:05 am :snippity:
Of course, he may have some other passport that wasn't confiscated in the Mar-a-largo search.
Passports had been returned.
They found 3 passports at Mar-a-lago.

2 expired civilian passports and 1 diplomatic passport. These are the ones that were returned.

He may have a still valid civilian passport.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:10 am
by Danraft
Morning news on ABC with a bunch of British peeps, bagpipes, etc…
Where is this? (HAHA)
Can’t be Britain or Scotland as I keep seeing SUNSHINE and shadows…

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:11 am
by Suranis
Uninformed wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:20 am Being somewhat of a news addict, and definitely not a monarchist, the daily twenty four hour bombardment of royal news is starting to grate just a little bit. Being related to and a friend of some whom are invested in the pomp and ceremony (frippery!) it all gets rather awkward. Must go out walking more. :notlistening:

P.S. If any of you get various details wrong about royal matters don’t worry, a number of “constitutional experts” and royal historians (hacks) have been talking a considerable amount of tripe.
Same thing happened with Diana. I was well and truly over it by day 3 and after another week they could have used the woman's head in a football match and I would have applauded. Bloody hell that was insane.

The hype is basically run by people who could not care less and they hype it to the nines. Those people who actually care would do respectful stuff that would not waste people's time.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:49 am
by Sam the Centipede
Gregg wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:22 am
Suranis wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:03 pm Trying to remember who the 4 "good" queens were. There was Elizabeth I & II, Victoria, and the bad one was "Bloody" Mary Tudor. I suppose I could look up Wiki but too lazy.
Wins:

Boudicca, Mary (William and Mary version), Elizabeth I. Victoria, Elizabeth II

Losses Mary Tudor

Draw Jane Grey
What about Queen Anne, a queen regnant too, who was (iirc) the last of the Stuarts (I mean the last of the royal house; there are plenty of other non-royal Stuarts still).

You have to feel for the woman: despite 17 pregnancies she died without any of them surviving her.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:56 am
by Phoenix520
Kris said
I actually got to see PDQ Bach live with our city's philharmonic orchestra when I was younger. It was SO much fun!
Some years back Mr520 and I were putting effort into a local bill to save our mountains from developers. My neighbor, Brian, was a violinist and was tasked with getting some music for a fundraiser, which was held in a cabin in Wilderness Park. The cabin held 50 max.

Imagine our surprise when PDQ Bach rolled up!! They were in town to debut a new piece the next day. Brian had gone to college with one of them. It was rollicking fun!! One of my favorite musical evenings.

ETA They played the debut piece too.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:06 am
by noblepa
Kendra wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:56 pm
From what I heard on CNN, the invite was for POTUS and FLOTUS and that's it. tfg should be howling soon. I'm sure her and his spawn thought they'd all get a ticket.
Especially if it turns out the Obama, Bush, Clinton and Carter were invited.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:11 am
by noblepa
MN-Skeptic wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:55 pm I know folks were wondering…

I may be misremembering, but I thought I read a few years ago that the Queen had given up all of her Corgis. Perhaps this story is from that time. Besides, that picture is a much younger version of Her Majesty.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:15 am
by noblepa
keith wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:05 am
Of course, he may have some other passport that wasn't confiscated in the Mar-a-largo search.
In the name of John Barron, perhaps?

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:18 am
by Kriselda Gray
Phoenix520 wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:56 am Imagine our surprise when PDQ Bach rolled up!! They were in town to debut a new piece the next day. Brian had gone to college with one of them. It was rollicking fun!! One of my favorite musical evenings.

ETA They played the debut piece too.
Oh too cool! That would have been a real treat :)

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:25 am
by Kendra
noblepa wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:06 am
Kendra wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:56 pm
From what I heard on CNN, the invite was for POTUS and FLOTUS and that's it. tfg should be howling soon. I'm sure her and his spawn thought they'd all get a ticket.
Especially if it turns out the Obama, Bush, Clinton and Carter were invited.
:biggrin: :batting: :daydreaming:

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:00 pm
by sugar magnolia
noblepa wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:11 am
MN-Skeptic wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:55 pm I know folks were wondering…

I may be misremembering, but I thought I read a few years ago that the Queen had given up all of her Corgis. Perhaps this story is from that time. Besides, that picture is a much younger version of Her Majesty.
That photo is only 6 years old and was taken at her 90th birthday in 2016. There is also a photo of her with one of the dogs in Feb of 2022 in that same article, so no, she hadn't gotten rid of her dogs. She had 4 at the time of her death according to all sources I've seen. 2 corgis, a dorgie and a cocker spaniel.

Re: King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla (Scorpio/Cancer) + Queen Elizabeth II

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:41 pm
by Azastan
sugar magnolia wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:00 pm

That photo is only 6 years old and was taken at her 90th birthday in 2016. There is also a photo of her with one of the dogs in Feb of 2022 in that same article, so no, she hadn't gotten rid of her dogs. She had 4 at the time of her death according to all sources I've seen. 2 corgis, a dorgie and a cocker spaniel.
She also has black labs, used as shotgun dogs. They are not kept at Buckingham Palace.