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Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 pm

Sunrise wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:25 pm

sterngard friegen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:02 pm

Members of the House can only attain their seats through election. Appointment is for Senators only.

Not only is Stern correct about appointments being only for Senators, but Gaetz lives in the Panhandle of Florida and Ivanka has just moved to Miami, so she wouldn’t even be in the same district. Poor thing will just have to miss out this time, since I’m absolutely positive she wouldn’t move to the Panhandle to run as his replacement.

In Ohio, you don't have to live in the district you Represent in Congress, you just have to be an Ohio resident. I thought all states were like that but I think I was wrong. Don't know about Florida, I'm not sure they even require you to be human so who knows what the residency requirements are.

According to this website:

https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/contentV ... 20election.

The Constitution requires a Representative to be at least 21 years of age, a resident of the district from which elected, and a resident of Florida for two years prior to election.

I believe she first leased a condo in Fl in December or January, so she wouldn't qualify for the two year residency requirement ahead of a November 2022 election. As for the district residency, I would imagine she could rent an apartment in the district and spend some time there. That's how Brian Bilbray managed to qualify as a resident in CA 50.

somerset wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:58 pm According to this website:

https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/contentV ... 20election.

The Constitution requires a Representative to be at least 21 years of age, a resident of the district from which elected, and a resident of Florida for two years prior to election.

That's the Florida Constitution discussing the Florida House of Representatives.

bob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:08 pm

somerset wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:58 pm According to this website:

https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/contentV ... 20election.

The Constitution requires a Representative to be at least 21 years of age, a resident of the district from which elected, and a resident of Florida for two years prior to election.

That's the Florida Constitution discussing the Florida House of Representatives.

Oops

Does Florida law determine eligibility, or is this superseded by US law? From what I see on Wikipedia (yeah, I know), it looks like the only requirement at the federal level is that the candidate be a resident of the state at the time of the election, with no residency requirement in the district.

If this is the case, Ivanka could run for FL 1

Breaking

Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm.

But while we're here, Twitter is suddenly abuzz that Trump granted Gaetz a "Secret Pardon" and any day now Matt is gonna whip it out. Some lawyer tell me that a pardon can only be secret until its accepted, and then someone has to file some paperwork somewhere to be effective... and further, if your Daddy leaves office before that paper gets filed, the Pardon doesn't exist anymore than the Almost Federal Judges in Marbury v. Madison commissions.

The problem with that theory is obvious.

Since when has Trump been able to keep a secret?

Are secret pardons on par with Caesar’s Will?

The Strep-e le Pew.

The Ancient Aliens Guy.

Chilidog wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:13 am

Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm.

But while we're here, Twitter is suddenly abuzz that Trump granted Gaetz a "Secret Pardon" and any day now Matt is gonna whip it out. Some lawyer tell me that a pardon can only be secret until its accepted, and then someone has to file some paperwork somewhere to be effective... and further, if your Daddy leaves office before that paper gets filed, the Pardon doesn't exist anymore than the Almost Federal Judges in Marbury v. Madison commissions.

The problem with that theory is obvious.

Since when has Trump been able to keep a secret?

Also, the thing that always gets forgotton about: acceptance of a pardon is equal to admission of guilt.

wonder if he's going to do a Trumpian "list of grievances" Keynote speech..

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:25 am

boyffant

tek wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:53 am wonder if he's going to do a Trumpian "list of grievances" Keynote speech..

Afterwards he can wrestle Jim Jordan.

Remember this is in Marry Lardo: the fantasy kingdom. You cant upstage the Toddler in whining.

Weak AF statement and weasel words: "...never asked ME..."

Why did he feel compelled to make any sort of statement?
I thought we canceled him. That was the last season finale.

Chilidog wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:13 am

Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm.

But while we're here, Twitter is suddenly abuzz that Trump granted Gaetz a "Secret Pardon" and any day now Matt is gonna whip it out. Some lawyer tell me that a pardon can only be secret until its accepted, and then someone has to file some paperwork somewhere to be effective... and further, if your Daddy leaves office before that paper gets filed, the Pardon doesn't exist anymore than the Almost Federal Judges in Marbury v. Madison commissions.

The problem with that theory is obvious.

Since when has Trump been able to keep a secret?

I thought that there was some requirement that all pardons be published in the Federal Register, or somewhere, where they are publicly available.

If that is true, a secret pardon isn't really possible.

The sad thing about this whole episode is that, unless Gaetz is indicted, convicted and imprisoned, he will almost certainly be re-elected.

noblepa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:30 pm The sad thing about this whole episode is that, unless Gaetz is indicted, convicted and imprisoned, he will almost certainly be re-elected.

Well, to a lot of people... sleeping with someone underaged and getting away with it is a sign of being a good person, or at least a person of note with influence.

neeneko wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:59 pm

noblepa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:30 pm The sad thing about this whole episode is that, unless Gaetz is indicted, convicted and imprisoned, he will almost certainly be re-elected.

Well, to a lot of people... sleeping with someone underaged and getting away with it is a sign of being a good person, or at least a person of note with influence.

He will get away with it because Republicans learned a long time ago that as long as they and their numerous coordinated right wing media parrot over and over and over again that Democrats are evil, hate America, want to destroy America, are all criminals, love criminals more than they love their own spouses, etc, etc that is just doesn't matter how bad the Republican candidate truly is. Rick Scott won a governor's race even with wide spread media accounts of the fact that the company he ran was guilty of the biggest Medicare fraud in history. The actual sleaze of the Republican doesn't matter because Republicans have brainwashed their voters into automatically accepting that the Democratic opponent is the very embodiment of evil.

So, yeah. Long winded way of saying I totally agree. Matt Gaetz will win his next election as long as he is not actually incarcerated and there is a different Republican that his voters can vote for. If it's between Gaetz and a Democratic nominee, Gaetz will win, no question about it.

RVInit wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:36 pm He will get away with it because Republicans learned a long time ago that as long as they and their numerous coordinated right wing media parrot over and over and over again that Democrats are evil, hate America, want to destroy America, are all criminals, love criminals more than they love their own spouses, etc, etc that is just doesn't matter how bad the Republican candidate truly is. Rick Scott won a governor's race even with wide spread media accounts of the fact that the company he ran was guilty of the biggest Medicare fraud in history. The actual sleaze of the Republican doesn't matter because Republicans have brainwashed their voters into automatically accepting that the Democratic opponent is the very embodiment of evil.

I think it is more than simply 'democrats are evil', but, well, as I often phrase it, the 'natural order'. Morality is based off who you are, not what you do, it is sleezy when minorities or the wrong denomination of christianity does it, but when a godly person does the same thing and gets away with it, is evidence that they are a better person.

Put another way, they both believe the rules should apply differently depending on who you are, and how the rules are applied to you is an indication of where in the hierarchy you sit. Getting rich off fraud is fine if you are the right demographic group, in fact it shows how favored you are because, well, look at all that money you made. Same with sleeping with underaged women, if you are the right demographic group it shows you are a significant enough person to violate a taboo that takes down lesser people. Getting away with it shows your worth.

RVInit wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:36 pm Matt Gaetz will win his next election as long as he is not actually incarcerated

Nothing about being in prison will prevent him from running, James Traficant ran for his seat as a 3rd party. Seeing how insane the GQP has become, I can see this scumbag running as an R, winning, and serving his term while in prison...