Fogbow

He will negotiate no more.

Until he does.

All these years of standing for exactly nothing are coming home to roost.
Or something like that.

This coward hasn't fought for anything since he's been in office. He only claims to do so now cause he's scared to end up like Eric Cantor and be forced out.

It's not looking good for Qevin. But I still think he will win in the end.

It was a "bad" thing when Hillary was accused of earning the job, but it's a "good" thing when this nitwit says it?

OMG, MSNBC has Steve Kornacki at the Big Board counting McCarthy's votes.



McCarthy just on saying he doesn't have the votes.

I was just watching Steve Kornaki, and that's saying something. He usually gets on my nerves.

But it looks like I might get my wish. More than one ballot.

Steve Kornacki said Kevin might be trying to get some members to vote "present." Those votes would not count, and thus the voting threshold would be lowered to about 214.

And this is bad news for Joe Biden...

You don’t have the votes, you don’t have the votes!

Such a blunder makes me wonder why I even bring the thunder.

On a serious note, I think it would be great if we got around to political drama about issues and not process and personality.

Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:53 am

I wonder what that means.

Probably something along the lines of "you can be speaker, but you must first get the approval of the Freedumb Caucus before you do anything".

I, too, think that he will eventually get the job, but he is going to be seriously damaged goods for the next two years. He will be under the thumb of the likes of emptygee, bobo and Gaitz.

The good news is that this congress will not be able to pass any legislation that hurts people. The bad news is that this congress won't be able to pass any legislation that helps people. I predict one of the least productive congresses in history.

They will spend their time investigating every democrat in sight. Emptygee probably already has articles of impeachment against President Biden, just waiting until a speaker is elected and the House can conduct other business. I look for her to introduce the articles this week or next.

One good thing is that the Five Ninnys will be constantly fighting one another to be Chief dingbat and to get in front of the nearest TV screen, so they wont have a chance to formulate a policy.

Gupwalla wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:48 am You don’t have the votes, you don’t have the votes!

Such a blunder makes me wonder why I even bring the thunder.

On a serious note, I think it would be great if we got around to political drama about issues and not process and personality.

So much

SuzieC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:43 am Steve Kornacki said Kevin might be trying to get some members to vote "present." Those votes would not count, and thus the voting threshold would be lowered to about 214.

How many "present" votes to lower the quota such that the Democrats could "accidentially" push thru their own candidate

I was wondering that, too.

Not sure but already 8 Rs have voted against McCarthy. No one has voted present so far.

Steve Kornacki speculates that some may start voting present in second round. If that happens Jeffries with a solid 212 votes could "accidentally" slip in!!

noblepa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:07 pm I wonder what that means.

I read it as meaning the Freedom Caucus agreed to support McCarthy's Speakership provided he agreed to their terms, such as a rule allowing for a single member to move to remove the current Speaker.

And reports suggest Freedom Caucus members were demanding plum assignments for their votes.

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RTH10260 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:05 pm How many "present" votes to lower the quota such that the Democrats could "accidentially" push thru their own candidate

Democrats current have 212 votes (a member recently died) and the Republicans have 222.

Because the Speaker must be elected by a majority, 11 is the minimum number of "present" votes that would give the Speakership to the Democrats. And Republicans could block that by simply voting for someone other than McCarthy or the Democratic nominee.

Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:31 pm

18 as of this poast

19. Come on 20. Nice, memorable number.

Jeffries!

I know he didn't win, but he got the plurality.

Final vote Jeffries 212 to about 200 (?) McCarthy.

hahahahaha

BrooklynDad_Defiant! @mmpadellan

BREAKING: The 1st round count is over.
Rep Hakeem Jeffries dusted McCarthy, 212-203.

FUCKING HILARIOUS.
1:45 PM · Jan 3, 2023