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Jenna Ellis
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:50 pm
by northland10
She loves to make a legalistic argument on lying, but if she is a Christian as she claims, a legalistic argument means squat. You can speak actual facts but still be lying. It all comes down to the will and intent to deceive. It is not about what you say but how it is received, and how you intend it to be received.
Augustine explained this at length.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:04 pm
by humblescribe
I am not arguing Bob's explanation of a censure. And I think he may be onto something about using this as a grift.
It seems to me that this penalty has only emboldened her to do more of the same.
I believe the conclusion of the court that this sort of disciplinary matter has not arisen before in Colorado. I do think, that everyone took the coward's way out, or at least the path of least resistance because they already knew the court would rubber stamp the stipulated penalty.
As a member of the public, I feel that there is zero recourse for us when lawyers do bad, but not necessarily criminal, things. In my view, determinations like this do more harm to lawyers' reputations and public confidence. It also sets a new standard for permissible behavior.
I did not see that there was any sort of license suspension or probation. So, she can do this again and again with the only penalty being another censure, because we know where the Colorado State Bar stands. I conclude that recidivism is OK by bar standards because there was no provision in the stipulation prohibiting future bad behavior.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:31 pm
by bob
humblescribe wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:04 pmSo, she can do this again and again with the only penalty being another censure, because we know where the Colorado State Bar stands.
Presumably, for the next ethics complaint, the penalty will be more severe; the bar has not locked in a top rung.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 5:21 pm
by Luke
Meanwhile, after all her constant gay bashing, recently she posted this. Was holding on to it when she did something else vile... didn't take long.
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Jenna Ellis
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 5:52 pm
by bob
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:01 pm
by Greatgrey
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:04 pm
by raison de arizona
“The parties agree that Respondent, through her conduct, undermined the American public’s confidence in the presidential election, violating her duty of candor to the public.”
More:
“Finally, the parties agree that two aggravators apply—Respondent had a selfish motive and she
engaged in a pattern of misconduct.”
And more:
“Respondent made ten public misrepresentations in November and December 2020 in her capacity as counsel for the then-President’s reelection campaign and as personal counsel to the then-President,”
Ellis agreed to these findings,
which were submitted as stipulations (binding agreements as to the facts between the parties) to the disciplinary court.
MAGA: don’t you see you are being lied to? Manipulated? They are ADMITTING to it when they have to, in court, under oath, yet then still going out and lying
about it on shows and in the media every day.
Wake up. Turn back to reality and reason. Reject the lies. It’s not too late.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:36 am
by raison de arizona
Jenna Ellis @JennaEllisEsq wrote:
From a radio listener this morning, and he makes a great point:
So in light of the Nashville school shooting, I did some research. They estimate it would cost $4B per year to have an armed guard at every school in the US.
We have allocated at least $75B to Ukraine. That is 18.75 yrs worth of school guards.
Online it said the shooter was going to another school but changed because of security on campus.
Metal detectors or gun laws would have not stopped this….armed security would have. Not sure why districts don’t put this into place. There are parents that are ex-cops or military that would take turns and provide for free.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:11 am
by Reddog
“They estimate”. Who are they?
In 2019, rounded to closest 500.
98,500 public schools.
30,500 private schools.
1 armed guard/school
$4*109/129000= $31,000/year wage
In an altruistic sense the pay per year would be $0.00. Leaving $4 billion per year for weapons. Arms manufacturers would love that.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:25 am
by Dave from down under
Who will guard the guards?
Ex military and police may have vulnerabilities exasperated by dealing with students/parents..
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:29 am
by Slim Cognito
For free? Most parents I know, ex military or not, work. Maybe retired grandparents but they’d have to screen sharp as a tack from people like, say me, who isn’t as quick as I once was.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:10 pm
by raison de arizona
Perhaps she can get a slap on the wrist out of this.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:37 pm
by raison de arizona
Poor Jenna Ellis versus Crazy Trumpers.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:44 pm
by Slim Cognito
Lie down with dogs...
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:12 am
by Ben-Prime
I mean, in fairness, she was being paid to train the leopards to eat certain faces and not others.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:18 pm
by raison de arizona
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:44 pm
by Slim Cognito
Insert FAFO meme here.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:37 pm
by Frater I*I
Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:44 pm
Insert FAFO meme here.
How abouts thiz one...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/V46XT8UGqZEZFTV48
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:09 pm
by Ben-Prime
But when she decides to take a plea deal and turn state's evidence on this, they'll be the first ones to make it about her being disloyal.
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:29 pm
by much ado
I love it when they start eating their own.
This will be a real schadenfreude smorgasbord!
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:27 pm
by Slim Cognito
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:33 pm
by Frater I*I
Ms. Cognito approves my meme,
I'm one step closer to being a full on Fogbozer....
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:36 am
by Slim Cognito
Jenna Ellis
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:08 pm
by bob
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Jenna Ellis
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:08 pm
by Resume18
bob wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:08 pm
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Birds of a feather . . .
