Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!” - CONVICTED!!

[neonzx]

That was a main thing I was concerned of. They would try and ID the jurors. And send crazies at them..

[Kendra]

Nicolle Wallace had a long interview with Michael Cohen today. Interesting range of topics, but I did love the part when he talked about his experience with pre-sentencing whatever it's called and how tfg might not enjoy it so much

CNN reporting that Melania, Ivanka and Barron did spend the day in New York with tfg, even though they did not come down for the "press conference" with no press being able to ask questions and get answers.

ETA: Cohen just now sitting down with Erin Burnett on CNN.

[Sam the Centipede]

That was a main thing I was concerned of. They would try and ID the jurors. And send crazies at them..

If a juror is hurry or worse, and Trump appears to have promoted the action, that could be taken into account during sentencing, perhaps prompting Judge Merchan to rule "usually not prison for first offenders … multiple violations of gag orders … disrespectful of court throughout … no remorse … accusations of corruption etc. … no acceptance of verdict … continued bad behavior … no option but prison!"

Possibly unlikely, but these are uncharted waters.

[raison de arizona]

Merchan is not going to give him shit. Mark my words. Best case is a laughable fine and suspended sentence.

[SuzieC]

100% bet you you're wrong.

[raison de arizona]

100% bet you you're wrong.

I you are right and I am wrong.

I *still* think Merchan rolled over and played dead on the contempt violations. Contrary to popular opinion.

[RVInit]

Here is an interesting take from former defendants and lawyers who came before Merchan. Some discussion of how he tends to handle sentencing. He tends to be more lenient to defendants who are remorseful and respectful in front of the judge. Uh oh.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/next-trump-cr ... 46524.html

[raison de arizona]

Lies.

tfg asserted that Biden approved the Russian oil pipeline in return for $3.5M being paid to his family. Actionable?

What a liar. All lies.

Venezuela has experienced a 72% drop in crime due to releasing all their criminals into the US. Also the Congo released all their criminals into the US.

No questions.

In a rambling press conference after being convicted of 34 felonies, Trump repeats the racist lie that “Congo, Africa just released a lot of people — a lot of people — from their prisons and jails and brought ’em into the United States of America.”

[Sam the Centipede]

Here is an interesting take from former defendants and lawyers who came before Merchan. Some discussion of how he tends to handle sentencing. He tends to be more lenient to defendants who are remorseful and respectful in front of the judge. Uh oh.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/next-trump-cr ... 46524.html

Thanks!

"Remorseful and respectful" – that's not going to play for Trump!

Interesting to read that Merchan has a lot of freedom and discretion in sentencing with few or none of the tariffs of the federal criminal system.

As everybody says, prison seems unlikely and only justified by Trump's bad behavior and his prior misdeeds (such as the case Judge Engoron heard).

So prison not practical and dangerously rage-inducing to Trumpist scum, fines meaningless to Trump, but I like the notion of community service. As the linked article says, Trump has complained about the condition of New York streets so here's a good opportunity for him to don an orange jumpsuit and pick up a broom.

Community service – even if it's not on the streets (and he is an elderly unfit person) would be something that Trump could not escape or pass over to someone else to perform.

It would also be fitting to impose that humbling experience in an arrogant shitbag who has disrespected everybody involved in the case except those in his team.

I'm optimistic that Judge Merchan might see the situation similarly! "Do you want bread with your soup?", "Yes please Mr. Trump – or should I call you Donald?"

[Foggy]

I can still hear Ari saying "Count 1, guilty. Count 2, guilty. Count 3 ..."

Very nice.

[RTH10260]

a crazy Habba on Faux News, just endulge on the first minute until Ben Meiselas takes over

[tmohr]

Orly has weighed in on the verdict. She hasn't gotten any better at lawyering.

Orly Taitz <orly.taitz@gmail.com>

9:53 AM (2 hours ago)

to bcc: me

I’ll take an America-loving felon over an idiot, bought and paid for, globalist puppet traitor, any day of the week! Also, Judge Merchan should be criminally prosecuted for violation of Trump’s civil rights under the color of authority
--
Dr Orly TaitzESQ
29839 Santa Margarita pkwy, ste 100
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688
ph 949-683-5411 fax949-766-7603
orlytaitzesq.com]

[zekeb]

American-loving? Certainly not Trump.

[Foggy]

Nor Taitz.

[bob]

P&E: The All-White Jury Just Convicted Black Man Donald Trump.



The article is just a repackaging of this Daily Caller article: Alan Dershowitz Doubts Conviction Will Be Overturned Because Judges Are ‘Terrified’ To Help Trump:

In the South, when they convicted black people improperly with an all-white jury or acquitted white people improperly with an all-white jury, that didn’t mean that those convictions were correct. It just meant that the jury didn’t reflect the values of our, of our country, it reflected the values of a particular region of the country, in this case the region is a liberal region, New York, in the Southern cases, the region was the conservative region of the South.

I guess the perfesser has forgotten about the extensive campaigns to reverse improper convictions (and the initiation of federal charges when state charges failed to rightly convict).

[bob]

For fun:

[RTH10260]

[MN-Skeptic]

Vivek Ramaswamy is pushing the idea that the President can pardon Trump for the New York State conviction. Here is today's tweet followed by a gift link to an April 5, 2023 opinion piece he wrote for the Wall Street Journal.

Vivek Ramaswamy
@VivekGRamaswamy

Can Trump be pardoned by the President for the conviction in NY? Answer: YES. Here’s why: the New York felony charges directly relied on claims that Trump violated federal law. New York prosecuted Trump based on the novel legal theory that he committed a misdemeanor (falsifying business records) “with the intent to commit” another crime, including violations of federal campaign finance law. That means if the alleged federal violation is expunged, the state felony conviction disappears along with it. It’s shocking how far the MSM has gone in the last 24 hours to hide this fact by expressly writing headlines that a pardon is impossible.

The President Can Pardon Trump

[raison de arizona]

yeah it doesn't work like that

[Sam the Centipede]

Thanks MN-S; Ramaswamy's piece is a briefly amusing read, and probably (non-lawyer here) accurate except in its wriggling to make Trump's state conviction presidentially pardonable by misrepresenting it an offense against the US.

Ramaswamy's closing sentences made me chuckle:

Better for Mr. Biden to pardon Mr. Trump now. If he doesn’t, the next president who isn’t Donald Trump should.

So Ramaswamy's lojjick here is: the offense is pardonable, therefore it should be pardoned, therefore the pardon should be expedited, therefore the current president should issue a pardon now.

I doubt that Mr. Biden and his team will agree.

Optimistism and disappointment often walk the same path, as Ramaswamy will find.

[northland10]

Orly has weighed in on the verdict. She hasn't gotten any better at lawyering.

Orly Taitz <orly.taitz@gmail.com>

9:53 AM (2 hours ago)

to bcc: me

I’ll take an America-loving felon over an idiot, bought and paid for, globalist puppet traitor, any day of the week! Also, Judge Merchan should be criminally prosecuted for violation of Trump’s civil rights under the color of authority
--
Dr Orly TaitzESQ
29839 Santa Margarita pkwy, ste 100
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688
ph 949-683-5411 fax949-766-7603
orlytaitzesq.com]

What? No mention of Obama's CT SSN? She's slipping.

[zekeb]

Falsifying business records is an election crime? These nutjobs never looked at the exact charges against DJT.

[keith]

100% bet you you're wrong.

Don't worry unduly. RdeAz is just deploying a reverse jinx.

I hope.

[p0rtia]

Time for a reminder of just what it was Main Justice charged Cohen with (I think it was MJ):

From the Charging doc https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... -Documents :

There are 8 counts, divided into 3 categories. My summary and thoughts:

Tax Evasion Scheme:

Counts 1 - 5 Evasion of Assessment of Income Tax Liability (Medallion stuff)

False Statements to a Bank

Count 6 - False statements to a bank (lying about HELOC $$ and opening of shell co. to pay Stormy)

Campaign Finance Violations

Count 7 - Causing an Unlawful Corporate Contribution: Karen McDougal (Cohen's only involvement was the conspiracy with fuckhead and Pecker. Fuckhead and Pecker. That’s the title of something. And as we know, Pecker got an immunity deal, while the feds passed on fuckhead.

Count 8 Excessive Campaign Contribution (Stormy)

The doc I’m looking at doesn’t give the penalties, but I found them a while ago, and I think each charge was 1 to 3 or more years.

Note that it is _three_ charges that pertain to fuckhead, not one, which is often stated. Note also that the entire document is rife with discussion of campaign violations

Thirteen references to “Individual-1”. This is the doc that Bill Barr had doctored to remove even more references to “Individual-1”. Fuck Barr. Fuck offing Merick Garland.

I’m sure Mikey Johnson and all the other flying monkeys will get right on having SCOTUS intervene and remove Cohen’s conviction too.

[Kendra]

Been watching some Faux News outrage this morning and all the rigged trial and Biden interference with DOJ. My question is, if Biden is so thick with Justice, why hasn't he stepped in to stop the charges against Hunter?