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Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:22 pm
by neonzx
Suranis wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:14 pm The website does not seem to exist, so I'm saying fake. Besides, defacing legal currency is probably not very legal.
https://ncmint.com/trump-never-surrende ... ot-2-bill/

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:23 pm
by much ado
Suranis wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:14 pm The website does not seem to exist, so I'm saying fake. Besides, defacing legal currency is probably not very legal.
Link to website... TRUMP Fight For America $2 Bill

ETA: Somewhat surprisingly, it is not illegal to stamp political messages on US currency. This page discusses the issue and cites Federal statutes...

https://www.stampstampede.org/faq/yes-its-legal/

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:49 pm
by bill_g
much ado wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:23 pm
Suranis wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:14 pm The website does not seem to exist, so I'm saying fake. Besides, defacing legal currency is probably not very legal.
Link to website... TRUMP Fight For America $2 Bill

ETA: Somewhat surprisingly, it is not illegal to stamp political messages on US currency. This page discusses the issue and cites Federal statutes...

https://www.stampstampede.org/faq/yes-its-legal/
So I could write "I Like Ike", but not "I Like Elvis".

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:51 pm
by bill_g
I recall GOP wincing at Obama's succession and threatening to leave the country. Still here.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:23 pm
by RVInit
Foggy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:34 pm
RVInit wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:14 pm ... I think that if Trump is beaten this year they may just persuade a larger and larger number of Republicans to join them.
Wait, are you suggesting that outright insanity has a sell-by date, lady? :confuzzled:

The thing is, I know you remember, we had a thread in Formerly Fogbow about how Trump was near total collapse mentally, and how "any day now" he'd be completely unable to function. That thread lasted for four years, from 2017 until Biden took office, and we still (me included :oopsy: ) play the "any day now" game. He's near a total mental collapse. He can't tie his own shoes. He can't speak coherently, rationally, or intelligently.

Yet the honest truth is, this insane crook, this racist and rapist, this convicted felon and piece of dog crap, is going to get almost half the votes for president of the United States of America, twelve weeks from today. It's unreal and surreal and way too real for me.

But I hope you are right, my friend. I so hope you are right. :towel:
Not really. But, we already had a handful of Republicans that identified as never Trumpers. They stuck to their guns and not only didn't vote for Trump, but they voted for Biden. Over time, we have more and more of these Republicans that are willing to actually speak out loud. For instance, the Mayor of Mesa County, who spoke at the Harris/Walz rally in support not only of Harris for President, but making the case for similarly minded Republicans to vote Democrat all the way down the ballot. These like minded Republicans are getting more and more organized and more and more of them are willing to step up call for Republicans to reject not just Trump, but the whole MAGA ideology.

What I'm thinking is that if/when Trump loses in November, I do believe more and more Republicans will get a little bit of backbone and we may start seeing a more and more serious effort for them to take their party back from the MAGAts. Hard core MAGAts will eventually realize that they are losing more and more elections and maybe it's time to return to a bit of sanity. It's going to take a crap ton of effort to crush all the MAGAts in the Senate races and also state legislature races. But this is what these groups are organizing to do. Which I haven't really seen this kind of serious effort to topple MAGAts before.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:53 pm
by Foggy
RVInit wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:23 pm It's going to take a crap ton of effort to crush all the MAGAts in the Senate races and also state legislature races.
... and don't forget we have to fix the Supreme Court and some of its rulings. We've got a long, tough road ahead, but a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step (Ghandi).

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:58 pm
by pipistrelle
RVInit wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:23 pm the whole MAGA ideology
= HATE

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:21 am
by Chilidog
RVInit wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:18 pm
Resume18 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:39 pm :snippity:

I'd love to see him campaigning in a GPS tether, if not from a jail cell. Mostly though, I just want him gone.
I have been hoping that he will drop dead from a heart attack. Just freaking DIE, PLEASE!!!!!

I don't feel bad at all for wishing him dead. Not at all.
personally, I want him to stroke out, not dead.

I want him to be fully awake and aware of what's going on around him, but unable to speak coherently.

I want him shambling around Mar-a-Lardo like Frankenstein's monster, howling in inchoate rage.


But that's just me.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:39 am
by sugar magnolia
Chilidog wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:21 am
RVInit wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:18 pm
Resume18 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:39 pm :snippity:

I'd love to see him campaigning in a GPS tether, if not from a jail cell. Mostly though, I just want him gone.
I have been hoping that he will drop dead from a heart attack. Just freaking DIE, PLEASE!!!!!

I don't feel bad at all for wishing him dead. Not at all.
personally, I want him to stroke out, not dead.

I want him to be fully awake and aware of what's going on around him, but unable to speak coherently.

I want him shambling around Mar-a-Lardo like Frankenstein's monster, howling in inchoate rage.


But that's just me.
...and shitting in his pants and pissing down his leg.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:05 am
by Estiveo
Aware but bedridden & unable to communicate, with only big, black & latino male nurses to take care of him. And no wife, no kids, the only visitor he ever gets is Laura Loomer.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:19 am
by RVInit
I have to admit, that sounds even better. And I still don't feel bad about thinking such thoughts.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:26 am
by neonzx
And some say I am the mean one? :towel: I don't wish ill on anyone.

Ok. Maybe Gym Jordan. I might be okay with that.
Well MTG maybe also too. Maybe more. I'll have to get back you.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:27 am
by Dr. Ken
Sylvester the Cat is going to do another rambling press conference


Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:43 pm
by Resume18
Dr. Ken wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:27 am Sylvester the Cat is going to do another rambling press conference

They are not press conferences; they are random, non-sequitur babble fests.

But maybe someone will ask him a tough question and . . . who am I kidding?

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:46 pm
by Volkonski
By holding "press conferences" instead of rallies he avoids comparisons with Harris' rally crowds. ;)

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:50 pm
by keith
Suranis wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:14 pm The website does not seem to exist, so I'm saying fake. Besides, defacing legal currency is probably not very legal.
That was my first thought as well.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:01 pm
by RTH10260
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/333 wrote: 18 U.S. Code § 333 - Mutilation of national bank obligations

Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 700; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(B), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2146.)

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:36 pm
by neonzx
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Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:47 pm
by MN-Skeptic
Merchant just ruled that he won't step down from Trump's New York court case. His ruling had nothing to do with the existing gag order. :roll:

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:49 pm
by zekeb
MN-Skeptic wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:47 pm Merchant just ruled that he won't step down from Trump's New York court case. His ruling had nothing to do with the existing gag order. :roll:
It does if Donnie says it does. :fingerwag:

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:56 pm
by neonzx
He's holding press conferences. What reporter's questions is he gagged from answering? :liar:

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:56 pm
by Dr. Ken
Lol he's clearly pissed


Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:58 pm
by bob
RTH10260 wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:01 pm
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/333 wrote: 18 U.S. Code § 333 - Mutilation of national bank obligations

Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 700; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(B), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2146.)
The courts have included an intent to defraud.

It isn't illegal to destroy your own money; just dumb. Doubly so if you pay someone to do it for you.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:59 pm
by sugar magnolia
There's a reason nobody's ever seen them before, you fuckwit.

Donald J. Trump 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:39 pm
by neonzx
bob wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:58 pm It isn't illegal to destroy your own money; just dumb. Doubly so if you pay someone to do it for you.
I was going to ask on that. I have never heard of anyone arrested and prosecuted for defacing currency. And if its their own money it may end up refused/worthless. Dumb.