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Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:40 am
by Sam the Centipede
The decree itself is at https://worcesterdiocese.org/news/bisho ... ity-school. It's worth a read.

I see a typical tone-deaf message from an out of touch cleric. It is fake love wrapped in hypocritical phrases. The bishop despises Black Lives Matter but realizes that he shouldn't appear racist (whether he is or not) so produces some crap about BLM promoting ideas antithetical to some of his church's teaching.

He cannot bring himself to say anything welcoming about gay people. Cast them out! Shun them!

The school is well to be rid of this tyrannical priest and his tortured hateful ethics.

I guess "my imaginary deity and my intolerant church are more important than your real world problems, now shut up and do as you are told" is still some priests' key message.

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:23 am
by bill_g
Interesting that a Fox News station in Detroit is reporting on matters in MA. Detroit has a majority black population, but the Detroit Metro area also has a strong Catholic presence created by WWII eastern European refugees escaping the war. Hard to guess who the station is catering to.

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:13 pm
by Suranis
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/ ... s-nae.html
Presbyterian Church in America Leaves National Association of Evangelicals
The PCA has been connected with the NAE since the denomination's founding, but has always fought about it.

Presbyterian elders voting for the breakup cited the NAE’s increasing political advocacy, which sometimes conflicted with more conservative Presbyterian churches. Elders mentioned the NAE’s advocacy on climate change, immigration, the death penalty, and COVID-19, among other issues.

Elders who wanted to remain with the NAE argued the groups had a historical bond and that in a culture increasingly hostile to Christianity, churches across denominations needed to work together on issues of common cause. The vote to leave was about 60 percent to 40 percent.

The NAE represents 39 denominations, from Free Methodist USA to the Foursquare Church, as well as nonprofits, schools, and individual congregations. It was founded in 1942 as a response to the mainline National Council of Churches and the fundamentalist Presbyterian Carl McIntire’s American Council of Christian Churches. In representing evangelicals in various spheres, it issues statements on political issues, files Supreme Court briefs on church-related cases, and generally connects evangelical groups to work together.

The head of the NAE since 2020, Walter Kim, is a member of the PCA and a teacher-in-residence at Trinity Presbyterian Church in Charlottesville, Virginia. (He is also on CT’s board.)

“It is a little awkward,” said David Coffin, a PCA pastor who supported the measure to leave, about Kim leading the NAE. An NAE spokesperson said the group does not comment on denominational decisions.

Roy Taylor, the former and longtime stated clerk of the PCA, was strongly in favor of remaining with the NAE, where he has served as chairman of the board. He filed a protest against the vote, which he had never done before. In the PCA, filing a protest is like a Supreme Court justice dissenting from a majority opinion, explaining why a decision was wrong.

The PCA’s ties to the NAE have been controversial since its founding. The denomination’s mission arm joined the NAE in 1973, and the full denomination joined in 1986. In 1974, at the PCA’s second general assembly of its existence, a number of overtures (essentially legislation) demanded that the new denomination avoid affiliation with any ecumenical organizations. One overture called for a termination of the PCA mission’s agency’s relationship with the NAE, which the fledgling denomination rejected.
More at the link

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:24 pm
by northland10
For completeness Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) is a smaller and conservative offshoot of the largest Presby denomination, the Presbyterian Church (USA) also spelled PCUSA. PCA broke off in the early 70s because PCUSA was not conservative enough and was paying more attention about feeding my sheep and leftist stuff like that.

Interesting how they are breaking from NAE which is made up of denominations like the Assemblies of God, the various flavors of the Church of God, and the Church of the Nazarine. It was probably predestined.

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:33 pm
by MN-Skeptic
northland10 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:24 pm Interesting how they are breaking from NAE which is made up of denominations like the Assemblies of God, the various flavors of the Church of God, and the Church of the Nazarine. It was probably predestined.
:lol:

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:46 pm
by Sam the Centipede
So many universal churches!

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:54 pm
by mojosapien
I have Burning Spear in the car right now.

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:55 pm
by pipistrelle
in a culture increasingly hostile to Christianity
in pseudo-Christian religious cults increasingly hostile to Christianity

Fixed it.

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:32 am
by MN-Skeptic
pipistrelle wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:55 pm
in a culture increasingly hostile to Christianity
in pseudo-Christian religious cults increasingly hostile to Christianity

Fixed it.
:stamp:

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:36 am
by neeneko
pipistrelle wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:55 pm
in a culture increasingly hostile to Christianity
in pseudo-Christian religious cults increasingly hostile to Christianity

Fixed it.
Heh. Every Christian denomination is pseudo-christian. Even the early churches couldn't agree on major issues, it has always been a very 'everyone make up their own stuff' faith... and they are all hostile to each other. Put another way, 'pseudo christian religious cult hostile to christianity' is the very essence of christianity.

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:49 am
by Suranis
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Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:34 am
by RTH10260
SCOTUS will have to reverse this :!: :twisted:

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:16 pm
by Suranis
Noting this becasue it's a rare Babylon Bee meme that is not just shitting on Liberals and is actually funny.

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Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:08 am
by Suranis
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Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:15 am
by Kriselda Gray
:rotflmao:

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:03 pm
by AndyinPA
I like it!

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:11 pm
by qbawl
My favorite saint.

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:31 am
by Foggy
"My cup overfloweth."

Ol' Wifehorn: "Umm, you spilled coffee on the counter top. You going to clean that up?"

Me : "Wait, you heard me; this is biblical now."

OW: :roll:

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:37 am
by pipistrelle
Foggy wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:31 am "My cup overfloweth."

Ol' Wifehorn: "Umm, you spilled coffee on the counter top. You going to clean that up?"

Me : "Wait, you heard me; this is biblical now."

OW: :roll:
I read that at first as you saying "OW." :lol:
Edit: Are you sure "You going to clean that up" was a question, not a statement?

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:54 am
by Foggy
Off Topic
We still have (post-)teenage boys here for another month. I clean a lot of messes.

Today, in preparation for their future, I am giving a master class in the fine art of fixing a bicycle tire and doing basic maintenance. They both have extensive bicycle time upcoming.

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:19 pm
by Suranis
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Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:30 pm
by AndyinPA
:lol:

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:24 am
by Tiredretiredlawyer
I'ma stealing that! :lol:

Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:28 am
by Suranis
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Re: Religious Threadjacks

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:15 am
by RTH10260
Poor Jews, poor diciples, they missed the discovery of chocolate by some 1500 years :lol: