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Lawyers in N.R.A. Trial Deliver Closing Arguments, Sending Case to Jury
The case, brought by the New York attorney general, Letitia James, accused leaders of the National Rifle Association of corruption and misspending.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/nyre ... press.coop
Over the last six weeks, lawyers for New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, have outlined a case that paints the N.R.A. as a mismanaged organization with little fealty to its mission of defending the Second Amendment or to the gun owners who prize that right. Monica Connell, representing the attorney general’s office, began her closing arguments on Thursday by comparing the defendants to children who grabbed cookies from a jar and were “caught with crumbs on their face and on their shirt.”

Central to the case has been the state’s depiction of the group’s former longtime leader, Wayne LaPierre, as a lavish spender who used N.R.A. funds to pay for private jets, luxury vacations, and the occasional spin on a superyacht.

“This case is about corruption: Misuse of funds spent on jets, black cars, five-star hotels, hundreds of thousands of dollars of suits, million-dollar deals to insiders, payments to loyal board members and pervasive violations of internal controls,” Ms. Connell said to the nearly full courtroom in Manhattan.

The jury is expected to begin deliberations on Friday.

Mr. LaPierre, 74, stepped down just before the New York trial commenced, ending more than three decades as the head of the organization. He had nonetheless testified in the case, conceding to pricey trips and other perks. He also spent many days in the front row the courtroom, as government lawyers — and even his own — described his sometimes troubled leadership of the group.

Along with Mr. LaPierre, the defendants included John Frazer, the N.R.A.’s general counsel; Woody Phillips, a former finance chief; and the N.R.A. itself.

Ms. James is seeking tens of millions of dollars in damages and to bar the individual defendants from working in nonprofit organizations in New York. Ms. James has special jurisdiction over the N.R.A. because it was chartered as a nonprofit in New York 148 years ago.
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So, after all the mealy-mouthed end of the trial plays out and the extended appeal process runs its course, it'll be like 2124 before an actual end to the case will happen.
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Jury delivers verdict this afternoon.



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"restitution" - does that mean the $$$ flow back to the N.R.A.?

What about the dissolution of the N.R.A., is that a separate proceeding?
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RTH10260 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:42 pm "restitution" - does that mean the $$$ flow back to the N.R.A.?

What about the dissolution of the N.R.A., is that a separate proceeding?
Yeah, he has to pay back the NRA.
The jury also said that the NRA failed to adopt a whistleblower policy that complied with state law and failed to act on whistleblower complaints and filed state-required reports with false and misleading information.
I don't know what the consequences of this finding will be. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jury-retur ... ivil-case/
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The ruling did not dissolve the NRA, dammit!
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:shrug: The judge ruled against dissolution a good while ago.

And remember, dissolution under the Attorney General's supervisory authority over non-profits would not have meant forfeiture. The court would have had an obligation to ensure that the dissolved corporation's assets were transferred to another entity that would, to the extent practicable, carry out the same purposes for which the NRA was formed.
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I’m against dissolution. There are worthwhile things a properly managed NRA could do, including educational programs on gun safety and hunter safety.
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It’s hard to believe that once upon a time, the NRA was a respectable organization.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:04 pm It’s hard to believe that once upon a time, the NRA was a respectable organization.
I remember it. I used to read the magazines in the bathroom at a cousin's house. I'm not a hunter, but it was interesting to read about the culture. At the time, there was a fear hunting was a dying interest, like many other traditions. So now they encourage hunting people given the weapons promoted.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/disgr ... 329a&ei=22
Wayne LaPierre, the former head of the National Rifle Association, told a judge that appointing a financial monitor would be "equivalent to putting a knife straight through the heart of the organization and twisting it."

According to The Associated Press, LaPierre made the remarks Monday on the final day of arguments in a case brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James.

The attorney general is seeking an independent monitor for the NRA after LaPierre and another deputy were found guilty of misspending millions of dollars of the organization's funds.

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The AP said that LaPierre told the judge in Monday's hearing that a monitor would be an "existential threat to the group because it would send a message to prospective members and donors that the NRA was 'being surveilled by this attorney general in New York.'"
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Kendra wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:14 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/disgr ... 329a&ei=22
Wayne LaPierre, the former head of the National Rifle Association, told a judge that appointing a financial monitor would be "equivalent to putting a knife straight through the heart of the organization and twisting it."
:snippity:
Yeah, I see no downside to such.....
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Neon approved.
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I get it…

The NRA is opposed to knife violence

But not…
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Dave from down under wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:30 pm I get it…

The NRA is opposed to knife violence

But not…
Good point.

He could have said 'equivalent to putting a gun to the head of the organization and pulling the trigger.'

But he didn't. I wonder why? (not really)
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Frater I*I wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:26 pm
Kendra wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:14 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/disgr ... 329a&ei=22
Wayne LaPierre, the former head of the National Rifle Association, told a judge that appointing a financial monitor would be "equivalent to putting a knife straight through the heart of the organization and twisting it."
:snippity:
Yeah, I see no downside to such.....
You'll notice how he doesn't reach for the equivalent gun analogy, because LaPierre is evil but not stupid.
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Can I help twist the knife?
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neonzx wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:45 am Can I help twist the knife?
Hard to do since knives are more restricted than guns.
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zekeb wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:42 am
neonzx wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:45 am Can I help twist the knife?
Hard to do since knives are more restricted than guns.
In that case use a bayonet affixed to a rifle. Totally legal then.
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Did this fly under the radar?

Attorney General James Secures 10-Year Ban On Wayne LaPierre From NRA
After Years of Violations and Jury Verdict that the NRA Broke the Law, Court Determines Changes Needed to NRA Governance

July 29, 2024

NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today secured a 10-year ban on former Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre from the National Rifle Association (NRA), and a court direction that the Office of the Attorney General (OAG) and the NRA propose reforms to be enacted at the NRA following years of mismanagement. Potential reforms that New York State Supreme Court Judge Joel Cohen outlined as priorities include retaining a compliance consultant to work with NRA staff to ensure needed changes are enacted, as well as changing the internal Audit Committee, reducing the size of the Board, and easing access for candidates to stand for Board positions.

Today’s court decision follows a jury verdict in February that found that the NRA broke the law, retaliated against whistleblowers, and lied on its annual regulatory filings. The jury verdict also concluded that Wayne LaPierre caused the NRA $5.4 million in damages and ordered him to pay $4.3 million.



https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2024/at ... pierre-nra
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