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fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 10:51 pm Her whole brand is going after Democrats who are insufficiently progressive.
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but rewriting history to claim that she is just vigorously pursuing her vision is ludicrous.

neeneko wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 8:13 am

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 10:51 pm Her whole brand is going after Democrats who are insufficiently progressive.
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but rewriting history to claim that she is just vigorously pursuing her vision is ludicrous.

How are those different though? If she had gone in as a simple self promoter with no specific ideology I might agree, but her going after democrats that do not align with her vision kinda strikes me as vigorously pursuing it.

All in all, I think she is being politically pretty smart. She has been building a base and is working to demonstrate that she can wield it in a way that can be friend or foe, and while she has been critical of people in her own party, that is a big part of HOW she is building support since many rank and file democrats are also critical of their own party in the same way and this provides a structure for focusing that dissatisfaction without burning things to the ground.

Suranis wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:29 am I;'m not much of a fan of AOC or her policies, but the woman has one thing in her favour - she is a bloody hard worker. Shoe leather covers a lot of sins.

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:37 pm

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 7:08 pm We'z merely an organization. Dammit. We need 50 to be a movement.

woodworker wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:28 pm Oh noes, that make three of us. Does that make us a movement according to Arlo Guthrie -- I can't remember.

woodworker wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 2:24 pm Just to be a contrarian (not really), I am a big fan of AOC. I agree with much, if not most, of her policy ideas, I like that she is willing to fight for her positions, is able to, and does, make strong well-reasoned arguments in favor of them, and that she doesn't accept the "wait your turn little girl" attitude of too many of our fellow D/s and the talking heads. I like and respect her and the rest of the Squad.

And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day
Walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? Friends
They may think it's a Movement, and that's what it is THE Alices's
Restaurant anti-massacre movement! And all you gotta do to join is to
Sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar

With feelin'

You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
Walk right in, it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 10:54 am We are on our way to a movement!!!!!! We have 5 humans plus woodworker's two cats. I have one cat, two dogs, and a horse. If we count granddogs and grand cats (4 + 1) the Squad organization now stands at 16.

https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/10511458/A ... Restaurant. Alice's Restaurant.

And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day
Walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? Friends
They may think it's a Movement, and that's what it is THE Alices's
Restaurant anti-massacre movement! And all you gotta do to join is to
Sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar

With feelin'

You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
Walk right in, it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 10:54 am We are on our way to a movement!!!!!! We have 5 humans plus woodworker's two cats. I have one cat, two dogs, and a horse. If we count granddogs and grand cats (4 + 1) the Squad organization now stands at 16.

https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/10511458/A ... Restaurant. Alice's Restaurant.

And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day
Walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? Friends
They may think it's a Movement, and that's what it is THE Alices's
Restaurant anti-massacre movement! And all you gotta do to join is to
Sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar

With feelin'

You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
Walk right in, it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 4:17 pm I've got a parrot that says trump is a dumbass.