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Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:11 pm
by SuzieC
14 million voters have voted. That says it all.

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:07 pm
by Luke
Carville is on the warpath. His opinion piece in the NY Times is behind the firewall. I canceled my sub a long time ago. Here's what's available.
OPINION GUEST ESSAY
James Carville: Biden Won’t Win. Democrats Need a Plan. Here’s One.
July 8, 2024 By James Carville
Mr. Carville is a veteran of Democratic presidential campaigns, including Bill Clinton’s in 1992, and a consultant to American Bridge, a Democratic super PAC.

Mark my words: Joe Biden is going to be out of the 2024 presidential race. Whether he is ready to admit it or not. His pleas on Monday to congressional Democrats for support will not unite the party behind him. Mr. Biden says he’s staying in the race, but it’s only a matter of time before Democratic pressure and public and private polling lead him to exit the race. The jig is up, and the sooner Mr. Biden and Democratic leaders accept this, the better. We need to move forward.

But it can’t be by anointing Vice President Kamala Harris or anyone else as the presumptive Democratic nominee. We’ve got to do it out in the open — the exact opposite of what Donald Trump wants us to do.

For the first time in his life, Mr. Trump is praying. To win the White House and increase his chances of avoiding an orange jumpsuit, he needs Democrats to make the wrong moves in the coming days — namely, to appear to rig the nomination for a fading president or the sitting vice president or some other heir apparent. He needs to be able to type ALL CAPS posts about power brokers and big donors putting the fix in. He needs, in other words, for Democrats to blow it.

We’re not going to do that.

We’re going to nominate a new ticket in a highly democratic and novel way, not in the backrooms of Washington, D.C., or Chicago.

We’re at the stage where we need constructive ideas for how to move forward. Representative Jim Clyburn and the Times Opinion columnist Ezra Klein have spoken about a Democratic mini-primary, and I want to build on that.

I want to see the Democratic Party hold four historic town halls between now and the Democratic National Convention in August — one each in the South, the Northeast, the Midwest and the West. We can recruit the two most obvious and qualified people in the world to facilitate substantive discussions: Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. They may not represent every faction under our party’s big tent. But they care as much about our democracy as our nation’s first president, they understand what it takes to be president, and they know how to win.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/08/opin ... minee.html

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:13 pm
by Dave from down under
Biden as good as says “put up or shut up”..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-09/ ... /103623490

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:14 pm
by Slim Cognito
Carville:
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Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:35 pm
by bob
Carville wrote:We can recruit the two most obvious and qualified people in the world to facilitate substantive discussions: Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.
And when they pass on the opportunity to preside over your circular firing squad?

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:38 pm
by SuzieC
I love the "we can recruit" part. Sure, Carville, try to hang on to any shred of relevance.

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:38 pm
by p0rtia
Consider your words marked, Carville.

Carry on.

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:52 pm
by neonzx
Carville, 79, sayz what?

Get back to me with cognitive tests on James.

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:00 pm
by Suranis
Wow, who knew that someone could wind up with the Middle Fingers of a White AND a Black man up shoved up their nose.

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:02 pm
by Frater I*I
I luvs how the Dems seemed bound and determined to speed run losing this election... :bored:

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:18 pm
by Dave from down under
Bloody quislings...

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:26 pm
by bob

:boxing:

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:58 pm
by RTH10260
bob wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:26 pm https://twitter.com/Theresa49500/status ... 9961745664
Jen "I dissent " Rubin Jul 8, 2024 @JRubinBlogger
Biden would benefit by deciding to release his entire medical record. A letter from his doctor cannot allay concerns about whether he has an underlying medical issue. Let the media paw through records and report if they find any indication of a heretofore “hidden” neurological…
:boxing:
BUT... But.... but... MD Dr Harold Bornstein did vertify with a simple letter that the future #45 will be the fittest and bestest impotus for evahhh :!:

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:08 pm
by p0rtia
It's the vibes.

And the stupidity of the media that only care about vibes.

Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:52 pm
by AndyinPA
At the beginning of his program, Lawrence O'Donnel read a letter from Biden's doctor explaining that the visits to the White House by a neurologist were to see other patients, not the President. It goes further to say that Biden does not have any real neurological issues.



Edited to add:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-hous ... ns-doctor/
On Monday night, the White House released a memo from the president's physician, Dr. Kevin O'Connor, in which he said he had obtained permission from Mr. Biden and Cannard to share more details.

"Dr. Cannard was the neurological specialist that examined President Biden for each of his annual physicals. His findings have been made public each time I have released the results of the President's annual physical. President Biden has not seen a neurologist outside of his annual physical," O'Connor wrote, noting that Cannard has been the neurology consultant to the White House Medical Unit since 2012.

"The results of this year's exam were detailed in my February 28th letter: 'An extremely detailed neurologic exam was again reassuring in that there were no findings which would be consistent with any cerebellar or other central neurological disorder, such as stroke, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, or ascending lateral sclerosis,'" O'Connor wrote.

O'Connor also noted that Cannard has made regular visits to the White House Medical Unit "in support of the thousands of active-duty members assigned in support of White House operations. Many military personnel experience neurological issues related to their service, and Dr. Cannard regularly visits the WHMU as part of this General Neurology practice."

The president, adamant that he's staying in the race, has gone on offense in recent days.