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AndyinPA wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:03 pm What we need are shorter election seasons and federal funding of elections. And if we have federal funding, we should have federal vetting.

I agree. I would love to see a federal law saying that a primary election for any national office (House, Senate, Pres, VPres) could not be held more than 90 days before the general election. We should have a single, national primary day. I'm waiting for some state to declare their primary for the 2028 election to be the day after the the 2024 election.

Actually, I'd like to see primaries eliminated.

Furthermore, the FEC should not accept declarations of candidacy more than 12 months before the general election. Maybe 6 months.

These two measures might also reduce the amount of money in elections. One of the reasons so much money is needed is that the election cycle is so damn long. Shorten the cycle, less money is needed. It wouldn't solve the problem completely, but I think it would help.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:22 pm He missed it completely today, at least once that I happened to witness. What a clown; I have no doubt that he's trying to imply that he's sooo busy talking with his peer group.

What peer group? In ability to lie with a straight face and willingness to do so, he has no peers.

He reminds me of the character that Jon Lovitz used to do on SNL, who was a pathalogical liar.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:33 pm

Ben-Prime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:51 pm

noblepa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:23 pm At the local or state level, anyone can file with the local or state election authorities and claim to be a Republican or a Democrat, even if no one in the party has ever heard of them. I don't think that there is very much the party can do about it.

I've always wondered about whether this is so and if so, why. One would think that the parties *could* prevent people from running on their ticket. What am I missing about why they can't or don't?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/ ... ans-686875

Illinois Republicans botched four opportunities to stop an avowed Nazi from representing their party in a Chicago-area congressional district. Now they’re paying the price.

I guess it still doesn't explain how the party could not stand up and say "He's not a Republican candidate and can't run with our label." Aren't the parties supposed to be private organizations? Wasn't that the whole logic behind even allowing them to set the rules for primaries because they are not the government and not bound by certain constraints on timing?

Ben-Prime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:36 am I guess it still doesn't explain how the party could not stand up and say "He's not a Republican candidate and can't run with our label." Aren't the parties supposed to be private organizations? Wasn't that the whole logic behind even allowing them to set the rules for primaries because they are not the government and not bound by certain constraints on timing?

But DEMOCRACY!!!

Where I come from there are no "primaries." The candidate is decided by a knife fighting contest internally, and then you get to vote for the candidate that's handed to you by the party. Take it or leave it.

This method has its flaws, pretty big flaws, but I think its better than the primary system you use.

Newly elected freshman Rep. George Santos (R-NY) makes White power gesture as he casts his vote for House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy.

*Reuters Photo by Evelyn Hockstein
@evelynpix

Oh look. He made a friend.

"The following media includes potentially sensitive content." in Betty Bowers tweet, before I may view the two turtle doves

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:13 pm Oh look. He made a friend.

George Santos Says He Helped the Rich Make Deals. Financial Pros Are Skeptical.

By Charles Paikert
Updated Jan. 6, 2023 7:04 am ET / Original Jan. 5, 2023 4:44 pm ET

Executives who work in the ultrahigh-net-worth and family office markets say the consulting company owned by George Santos would face significant challenges to realize the kind of deal-making success the Republican representative-elect has reported.

Santos, 34, arrived in Washington this week to be sworn in as the representative of a New York congressional district covering parts of Queens and Long Island. But he will begin his term amid a growing scandal after news organizations revealed that Santos falsified parts of his...




https://www.barrons.com/advisor/article ... 1672954937

NY Post:

George Santos appears to flash white power symbol in House Chambers
By Katherine Donlevy January 6, 2023 11:30pm Updated

Rep-elect George Santos, R-NY, gives a sign with his left hand while he raises his right hand to vote for Rep. Kevin McCarthy.
George Santos appeared to flash a white supremacy symbol in the House Chambers Thursday.
Pat Benic/UPI/Shutterstock





As if George Santos hadn’t been dealing with enough scrutiny, the congressman-elect appeared to flash a white power symbol in the House Chambers Thursday.

The Long Island liar unfolded his arms to reveal his left hand making a sideways “OK gesture,” a symbol co-opted by white supremacists, while casting his 10th vote for Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) for House Speaker.

https://nypost.com/2023/01/06/george-sa ... SocialFlow


In the penultimate moment of Speaker Vote 15, George was sitting next to Matt Gaetz (and Bobo). At the end when they stood up, George patted Matt's strong manly chest several times.

"The Long Island Liar". Priceless.

Oh no. It just says he's WP-ish.

I find it delicious that Santos has immediately found his own water level: Boebert, Gaetz, MTQ. It reflects so very...poorly...on them.

Or rather it reveals them for exactly who they are.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:25 am I find it delicious that Santos has immediately found his own water level: Boebert, Gaetz, MTQ. It reflects so very...poorly...on them.

Or rather it reveals them for exactly who they are.

I suspect the white power thing is a ploy for attention and an "own the libs." Yeah, he's a bottom feeder. Wikipedia says his district is the third wealthiest in the nation.

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:32 am
I suspect the white power thing is a ploy for attention and an "own the libs." Yeah, he's a bottom feeder. Wikipedia says his district is the third wealthiest in the nation.

As Rickie Lee Jones said, They didn’t get any of that bread by being slow in the head - so how did such a wealthy district fall for all that shit?

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:46 am

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:32 am
I suspect the white power thing is a ploy for attention and an "own the libs." Yeah, he's a bottom feeder. Wikipedia says his district is the third wealthiest in the nation.

As Rickie Lee Jones said, They didn’t get any of that bread by being slow in the head - so how did such a wealthy district fall for all that shit?

It's possible -- indeed, likely -- that they simply didn't care.

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:46 am
As Rickie Lee Jones said, They didn’t get any of that bread by being slow in the head - so how did such a wealthy district fall for all that shit?

I'd look at voter turnout stats. He may have gotten a majority of a minority because of apathy.

Yeah, but very little apathy in that district today. Anthony George Devolder Santos or whoever he is has 'em all excited now.

He had the (R) behind his name. That's all they needed to know.

Redistricting may have played a role. They've elected Democrats before it looks like.

Ballotpedia page on the Santos-Zimmerman race. It wasn't even close.

https://ballotpedia.org/New_York%27s_3r ... tion,_2022

Constituents rally to call for Rep. George Santos' resignation

CBS New York
8 Jan 2023

Congressman George Santos is newly sworn in and in the hot seat as his constituents say he's hiding from them. Some are calling for him to resign, and investigations to sort out his admitted lies and alleged crimes are ramping up. CBS2's Dave Carlin reports.

FLASH: Federal Election Commission complaint filed against Rep George Santos (R-NY) in his first week in office

Questions are raised about payments for an apartment, about an “astounding” number of $199.99 campaign expenses (just below $200 reporting threshold)… and whether a foreign influence was part of effort

"I'll just report everything as $199.99! It's brilliant! I can't believe nobody's ever thought of this before!!!!"

"Yeah! That's the ticket!"

Any cash transactions made at any financial institution, including banks and casinos, of more than $10,000 per day, must be reported to federal authorities. Such transactions are not illegal, but must be reported. They also must report patterns of transactions, such as withdrawing $9,999 in cash for several days in a row. Its called "structuring" and that IS illegal, if it can be shown that the transactions were done to avoid the $10k reporting threshold.

The FEC needs a rule like that.