Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:33 pm
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Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
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Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:21 pm
Tomorrow, Jack....
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:38 am
There hasn't yet been any announcement that the DOJ will be giving a press conference later today, so probably not today.
. And Trump hasn't completely exploded (I know, I know).For the IAALs - I was thinking it would probably be likely that Trump's lawyers will get a heads up and will be informed of any charges (if there are any) before an announcement is made to the general public. Is that probably how it would go?
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:09 pm
https://www.justsecurity.org/86771/mode ... documents/
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content ... e-2023.pdfThis model prosecution memorandum assesses potential charges federal prosecutors may bring against former President Donald Trump. It focuses on those emanating from his handling of classified documents and other government records since leaving office on January 20, 2021. It includes crimes related to the removal and retention of national security information and obstruction of the investigation into his handling of these documents. The authors have decades of experience as federal prosecutors and defense lawyers, as well as other legal expertise. Based upon this experience and the analysis that follows, we conclude that Trump should–and likely will–be charged.
Before indicting a case, prosecutors prepare a prosecution memo (or “pros memo”) that lays out admissible evidence, possible charges, and legal issues. This document provides a basis for prosecutors and their supervisors to assess whether the case meets the standard set forth in the Federal Principles of Prosecution, which permit prosecution only when there is sufficient evidence to obtain and sustain a conviction. Before a decision is made about bringing charges against Trump (and co-conspirators, if any), prosecutors will prepare such a memo.
There is sufficient evidence to obtain and sustain a conviction here, if the information gleaned from government filings and statements and voluminous public reporting is accurate. Indeed, the DOJ is likely now, or shortly will be, internally circulating a pros memo of its own saying so. That DOJ memo will, however, be highly confidential, in part because it will contain information derived through the grand jury and attorney work product. Since it will not be publicly available, we offer this analysis. Ours is likely more detailed than what DOJ will prepare internally for explanatory purposes. But, given the gravity of the issues here, our memo provides a sense of how prosecutors will assemble and evaluate the considerations that they must assess before making a prosecution decision.
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:18 pm
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/02/politics ... index.html
Attorneys for Donald Trump turned over material in mid-March in response to a federal subpoena related to a classified US military document described by the former president on tape in 2021 but were unable to find the document itself, two sources tell CNN.
Prosecutors issued the subpoena shortly after asking a Trump aide before a federal grand jury about the audio recording of a July 2021 meeting at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, New Jersey. On the recording, Trump acknowledges he held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran.
Trump captured on tape talking about classified document he kept after leaving the White House
Prosecutors sought “any and all” documents and materials related to Mark Milley, Trump’s chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Iran, including maps or invasion plans, the sources say. A similar subpoena was sent to at least one other attendee of the meeting, another source tells CNN.
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:51 pm
Is the "March" subpoena the original one, or this a new one issued in March of 2023?
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:01 pm
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:44 pm
Thanks for the reminder about Nicolle's show. She comes on so early, I usually miss it because by the time I think about whether it's time yet...it's over.
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:54 pm
Sounds like March of this year.
The subpoenas were issued immediately after Trump aide Margo Martin, who attended the meeting, appeared before the grand jury in Smith’s investigation and was asked about it. That’s also when Trump’s legal team found out prosecutors had the recording.
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:58 pm
Who wants to bet that the documents in question are ready in Saudi hands?
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:32 pm
I'll bet Russian hands.
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:47 pm
Why not both?
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:55 pm
I'm extremely certain that Trump sold the Iran document to the Saudis, because it's what he does. The question is, how does Jack Smith prove it? Who would know about the deal? Who would have arranged it, brokered it, and executed it?
(Narrator: Jared would know.)
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:00 pm
Considering that Iran and Saudi Arabia are at odds with each other, the Saudis would be very much interested to see how a US intervention would look like and what they know more about the Iranian internas. I guess they may have received at least a sneak preview.
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:21 pm
There is a reason why Jared got his Saudi billions..
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:29 pm
HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:37 pm
How do you suppose Russia paid for those Iranian drones?
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:47 pm
Trump Docs: In confirming that Trump's lawyers did not locate the memo he referenced in the Bedminster meeting, NYT also just named another attendee at that meeting: Liz Harrington, a spokesperson for the former president. 1/
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:28 pm
Just speculation, but still...
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:56 am
Slightly wrong, Ramaswamy does not have such a firm, but used a consulting firm that promoted LIV and had to register as foreign agent for the Saudis.
Ramaswamy fires consultants who worked simultaneously for LIV golf
Recent filings showed just how intertwined foreign entities and U.S. presidential politics can be.
By CAITLIN OPRYSKO and HAILEY FUCHS
05/30/2023 04:44 PM EDT Updated: 05/30/2023 08:54 PM EDT
Vivek Ramaswamy has fired one of the firms consulting for his presidential campaign after it was revealed that the firm had simultaneously been doing public relations work for a major Saudi-backed entity.
Gitcho Goodwin, the firm led by longtime political operatives Gail Gitcho and Henry Goodwin, registered retroactively on May 25 as foreign agents for the Saudi-funded LIV Golf league. The firm revealed that it drafted marketing materials, conducted media training for players, and advised the golf league on its corporate social responsibility strategy, according to a new Foreign Agents Registration Act filing.
An April memo sent out by Ramaswamy’s campaign CEO described both Gitcho and Goodwin as “senior advisors” to the candidate. But after POLITICO published the details of the firm’s work with LIV Golf, campaign spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin sought to downplay the strategists’ role with the campaign. Later she said that the campaign was no longer working with Gitcho Goodwin effective immediately.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/3 ... f-00099317
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:14 pm
Well, what do you know. A consulting firm with indirect ties to Trump just happens to end up working for a competitor's campaign? Makes you wonder whose interest they really had in mind. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump has plants in every single campaign. It's not as if he is able to get ethical people to work for him at this point.
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:11 pm
MSNBC reporting on air that grand jury on the docs case, who has been on a break, is set to meet again. Speculation being are they hearing more evidence or is it indictment time?
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:39 pm
Part of the problem is they can barely hear from another witness before uncovering even more crime. It could take years to uncover it all. I really do hope an indictment comes soon on the documents case though. I hasn't hurt him with the base, but apparently it is hurting him with Independents.
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:58 pm
Saudis, Russians, the Chinese and other's is that weaken the US, especially in the international realm so they find any place to create disruption and dissent.RVInit wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:14 pm Well, what do you know. A consulting firm with indirect ties to Trump just happens to end up working for a competitor's campaign? Makes you wonder whose interest they really had in mind. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump has plants in every single campaign. It's not as if he is able to get ethical people to work for him at this point.
On the subject of the document Trump spoke being missing, it is not helpful that he was the only person mentioning, that we know of. He is hardly a reliable witness of even his own actions. He just says whatever pops into his head. With his track record, it could be argued that the document does not even exist.
He could have said it just to show off, as is his way.
Special Counsel Jack Smith: Judgement Day (one way or the other)
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:16 pm
As every sane commentator from Maine to Hawai'i has pointed out, they can continue investigating after they indict, and add charges later. There is no problem; there is only an intentional refusal to recognize that every day they delay makes it worse for the country, and harder to win their case. This is a failing beyond the telling of it, IMO. Arrogance, cowardice, blindness.RVInit wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:39 pmPart of the problem is they can barely hear from another witness before uncovering even more crime. It could take years to uncover it all. I really do hope an indictment comes soon on the documents case though. I hasn't hurt him with the base, but apparently it is hurting him with Independents.
There will never be a better time than now, with the (spit) polls showing that the country is quite ready to accept that TFG is indeed a fucking crime boss)=. If justice delayed is justice denied, this is the most titanic denial of justice in the long ugly history of denials.