Historic military planes crash midair at Dallas air show, videos show
By Praveena Somasundaram, Andrea Salcedo and Meryl Kornfield
Updated November 12, 2022 at 7:09 p.m. EST|Published November 12, 2022 at 3:40 p.m. EST
A midair crash at a Dallas air show sent two planes into nose-dives that ended in a fireball and killed an unspecified number of people aboard Saturday, authorities say.
“A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and crashed at the Wings Over Dallas Airshow at Dallas Executive Airport in Texas around 1:20 p.m. local time Saturday,” an FAA statement said. “At this time, it is unknown how many people were on both aircraft.”
The FAA will assist an investigation led by the National Transportation Safety Board, the statement said.
It was unclear how many people were aboard the two planes.
Both planes were “normally crewed,” but the exact number and names of the pilots were not released Saturday evening, said Hank Coates, the CEO and president of Wings Over Dallas organizer Commemorative Air Force (CAF). He said a B-17 aircraft usually has four or five crew members, and the P-63 is a single-pilot plane. There were no paying customers aboard during the collision.
The pilots in the air show were volunteers who completed a strict training process, Coates added. Many air show volunteer pilots have a background in airline or military piloting, he said.
“These are very well-trained folks that have been doing it for a long time,” Coates said, adding that the incident was “extremely rare.”
CAF will not release information on the pilots until all officials involved in the investigation have agreed to do so and next of kin are notified, Coates said.
The B-17 was called the Texas Raiders, said CAF spokesperson Leah Block.
The Ramstein air show disaster occurred on Sunday, 28 August 1988 during the Flugtag '88 airshow at USAF Ramstein Air Base near Kaiserslautern, West Germany. Three aircraft of the Italian Air Force display team collided during their display, crashing to the ground in front of a crowd of about 300,000 people. There were 70 fatalities (67 spectators and three pilots) and 346 spectators sustained serious injuries in the resulting explosion and fire, and hundreds more had minor injuries.[1] At the time it was the deadliest air show accident in history until a 2002 crash at the Sknyliv air show that killed 77.[2]
The Sknyliv air show disaster occurred on Saturday, 27 July 2002, when a Ukrainian Air Force Sukhoi Su-27 piloted by Volodymyr Toponar (of the Ukrainian Falcons) and co-piloted by Yuriy Yegorov crashed during an aerobatics presentation at Sknyliv airfield near Lviv, Ukraine. The accident killed 77 people and injured 543, 100 of whom were hospitalized. It is the deadliest air show accident in history.
Pilot forum I frequent is speculating that this was loss of situational awareness on the part of the P63 pilot, possibly also poor briefing and formation setup.
Two Russians and a Ukrainian have been convicted of murder over the shooting down of MH17 in Ukraine in 2014.
Key points:
The offenders were tried in absentia, making it unlikely they will serve their life sentences or pay the 16 million euros in compensation
Judges found flight MH17 was deliberately targeted after it was mistaken for a Ukrainian military aircraft
The families of Australian victims welcomed the verdicts
One Russian defendant has been acquitted.
A court in the Netherlands found the three men helped procure the surface-to-air missile launcher that shot the plane out of the sky.
There were 298 people, including 38 Australians, killed when the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 was struck as it travelled over eastern Ukraine, bound for Kuala Lumpur.
The offenders, who remain at large, were tried in absentia as Moscow refused to hand them over.
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:58 am
by RTH10260
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:29 pm
by RTH10260
It's watery wreck, so here we splash
Aquarium in lobby of Berlin Radisson Blu hotel building bursts, forcing evacuation of guests
BY ANNA NORYSKIEWICZ
UPDATED ON: DECEMBER 16, 2022 / 8:56 AM / CBS NEWS
Berlin — The huge saltwater aquarium burst open Friday morning without any immediate explanation, spilling almost 265,000 gallons of water and 1,500 fish onto the floor of a business and leisure complex in a busy district of Germany's capital. Police and fire department officials said two people were injured by shards of glass and the explosive force of the aquarium's failure sent parts of the building's facade flying onto the street outside.
Police said they were alerted to a loud noise in Berlin's Mitte district at around 5:45 a.m. local time (11:45 p.m. Eastern on Thursday). The fire department was alerted by an automatic alarm in the DomAquarée complex, which houses various businesses including a Radisson Blu hotel, at the same time.
The huge volume of water in the "Aqua-Dom," the enormous, cylindrical tank situated directly over a bar in the lobby, put sufficient force behind the tank's failure to send debris flying "abruptly" in all directions, police said.
"It was a full-on tsunami," Berlin Mayor Franziska Giffey said, calling it mere luck that the aquarium came apart in the early hours of the day, when there weren't many people around. "Despite the terrible destruction we're seeing, we're lucky people weren't seriously injured."
She added that the aquarium's saltwater inhabitants, however, "could not be saved."
AndyinPA wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:52 pm
I feel bad for all the fish.
My thought too. Bigger ain't better.
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:24 pm
by Volkonski
The Associated Press :verified:
@ap@news.twtr.plus
A Thai navy ship has sunk in the Gulf of Thailand, and ships and helicopters have been working to rescue sailors from the sea. The navy said 75 sailors had been rescued and 31 were still in the water. https://apnews.com/article/world-news-
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:03 am
by Volkonski
At least 36 people injured, some seriously, after ‘severe turbulence’ on Hawaiian Airlines flight
Eleven patients were in serious condition, Honolulu Emergency Medical Services said in a statement. Among those transported to the hospital was a 14-month-old child.
The patients’ injuries included a serious head injury, lacerations, bruising and loss of consciousness, Honolulu EMS said.
Hawaiian Airlines is “supporting all affected passengers & employees” and monitoring the situation, the company said. Three crew members were among those injured, according to the airline.
“Medical care was provided to several guests & crewmembers at the airport for minor injuries while some were swiftly transported to local hospitals for further care,” Hawaiian Airlines tweeted.
We rely on inter-island flights. One reason why I moved to Oahu. I used to commute to other islands.
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:11 am
by RTH10260
Volkonski wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:24 pm
The Associated Press :verified:
@ap@news.twtr.plus
A Thai navy ship has sunk in the Gulf of Thailand, and ships and helicopters have been working to rescue sailors from the sea. The navy said 75 sailors had been rescued and 31 were still in the water. https://apnews.com/article/world-news-
Watch: Truck carrying 134-foot concrete beam demolished by train
A train derailed in Tennessee after colliding with a truck that had stopped on the tracks due to a red light at the intersection. The driver of the truck was not injured.
Didn't your momma tell you never to start across the tracks unless you can make it to the other side?
Watch: Truck carrying 134-foot concrete beam demolished by train
A train derailed in Tennessee after colliding with a truck that had stopped on the tracks due to a red light at the intersection. The driver of the truck was not injured.
Didn't your momma tell you never to start across the tracks unless you can make it to the other side?
That's not how the train engineer was taught to connect to the snow plow
Watch: Truck carrying 134-foot concrete beam demolished by train
A train derailed in Tennessee after colliding with a truck that had stopped on the tracks due to a red light at the intersection. The driver of the truck was not injured.
Didn't your momma tell you never to start across the tracks unless you can make it to the other side?
That train is anti-infrastructure.
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:06 am
by Maybenaut
That happened in Collegedale, Tennessee. Home to Little Debbie, America’s Number One Snack Cake.
I sang a song about Little Debbie at the Baltimore meetup.
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:14 am
by RTH10260
So they were lucky that it was not a cake delivery van? Or was it a test to see how hard cakes need to be to survive a train crash?
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:29 am
by Foggy
Off Topic
Maybenaut wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:06 am
I sang a song about Little Debbie at the Baltimore meetup.
Yeah, and it's a memory that is etched on my brainbone, but it was too damned noisy in that joint and I couldn't hear all the words. But what I did hear was hilarious.
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:33 am
by AndyinPA
Anybody should know not to stop on train tracks, but a truck driver? He didn't get his license without knowing that. He's extraordinarily lucky.
Planes and Boats and Trains. Wrecks!
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:26 pm
by tek
Not really a wreck, but
An investigation by the Federal Aviation Administration and National Transportation Safety Board into a Saturday afternoon accident that killed an American Airlines ground crew worker at the Montgomery Regional Airport.
The NTSB this afternoon released a statement saying the death occurred when “a ground support personnel was ingested into the engine.”
He's extraordinarily lucky.
