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Patagoniagirl wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:32 pm [1] I was not as smart as AOC, and certainly didnt have the composure. [2] I fucking beat that harassing bitch in HS and have never felt bad about it.

New: A since-deleted video from 2019 shows MTG harassing
@AOC
's office through a locked door. Calling her "crazy eyes" and telling her through the office's mailbox slot to "get rid of your diaper" while telling the office to open the door and come out.

https://cnn.com/2021/05/14/politics/kfi ... index.html

AndyinPA wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:34 am OMG. Other than that, I'm speechless.

Frater I*I wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:02 am Wellllll....who wants to let her know that AOC only needs to answer to the voters of her district, and not to some crazies from north west GA.

Strangely she pulled that card on me [well her staffer who answered for her], when I asked her on Facebook why she feels the need to make all of GA look like a bunch of inbreed hicks, which earned me a block from her.

Seems that she gets that she needs only to please people in GA-14 and not care what those in GA-8, yet feels that a rep from NY-14 should answer to her

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Another verbal altercation just happened in the House:

MTG’s spokesman Nick Dyer told
@RepSwalwell
: “Biden says you can take off your mask”

Swalwell confronted Dyer, got in his face and according to Dyer, said: “You don’t tell me what to fucking do!”

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:35 am I mean, isn't this sort of the inevitable end-state of Trumpism? If it doesn't matter what a person does as long as they say what their voters want to hear and hate who they hate, then electing a person who is as obviously disturbed as MTG seems completely reasonable, doesn't it?

Rep. Eric Swalwell@RepSwalwell
I had a mask on as I stepped off the Floor. An aide with @mtgreenee yelled at me to take my mask off. No one should be bullied for wearing a mask. So I told the bully what I thought of his order. Predictably, he went speechless. I regret I wasn’t more explicit.

neeneko wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:43 pm

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:35 am I mean, isn't this sort of the inevitable end-state of Trumpism? If it doesn't matter what a person does as long as they say what their voters want to hear and hate who they hate, then electing a person who is as obviously disturbed as MTG seems completely reasonable, doesn't it?

Hrm.
This has some interesting implications for the whole 'marketplace of ideas' in politics. Generally in order to keep power one has to deliver some kind of reward to your supporters. This generally means policies that enrich donors or satisfy some priority of blocks of voters. But what happens when this reward system becomes divorced from public policy and becomes pure emotional well being? MTG and people like her.. they don't need to do any actual governing. They don't need to please lobbies, they don't need to please companies, they don't need to even please large donors. They don't even depend on funding from upstream groups like the GoP so they don't even need to keep them happy. All they need to do is behave in a way that excites their fans and then, they don't need to govern or even fundraise. This has some very worrying implications for democracy.

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 2:38 pm

neeneko wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:43 pm

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:35 am I mean, isn't this sort of the inevitable end-state of Trumpism? If it doesn't matter what a person does as long as they say what their voters want to hear and hate who they hate, then electing a person who is as obviously disturbed as MTG seems completely reasonable, doesn't it?

Hrm.
This has some interesting implications for the whole 'marketplace of ideas' in politics. Generally in order to keep power one has to deliver some kind of reward to your supporters. This generally means policies that enrich donors or satisfy some priority of blocks of voters. But what happens when this reward system becomes divorced from public policy and becomes pure emotional well being? MTG and people like her.. they don't need to do any actual governing. They don't need to please lobbies, they don't need to please companies, they don't need to even please large donors. They don't even depend on funding from upstream groups like the GoP so they don't even need to keep them happy. All they need to do is behave in a way that excites their fans and then, they don't need to govern or even fundraise. This has some very worrying implications for democracy.

This is something I think about a lot, and have worried about since Trump got elected. Governance as reality TV, more or less. Why take anything seriously when you can just "lol nothing matters" at everything?

Frater I*I wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 10:57 pm

Patagoniagirl wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:32 pm [1] I was not as smart as AOC, and certainly didnt have the composure. [2] I fucking beat that harassing bitch in HS and have never felt bad about it.

[1] I would dispute that madam.

[2] Nor should you ever.